[Banter]

pathwriter, on 02 July 2010 - 11:48 PM, said:

I rolled the correct race

yea buddy

[islandboy]

pathwriter, on 02 July 2010 - 11:48 PM, said:

Yeah, I sure don't play this game.

Anyhow, my large problem with you is that your English is atrocious. I live in a city with an inexplicably large number of foreign nationals (well, not that inexplicable considering the university here) and am quite used to people who do not speak my language well. It's just as well I often speak their language. Thing is, though, I don't construct sentences in English and then transliterate into Spanish or Japanese, but whatever language you're coming from, that's clearly the method you use. I'll bet that went straight over your head.

Here's the problem: you are barely comprehensible when you post, you instantly jump on the defensive, and you're often just wrong. The difference between Signet, Sigil, and Allied Tags is a pretty big one, but paint-drinker that you are, you seem to consider them synonymous, which is about as sensible as saying that Boost, Berserk, and Last Resort can all be used interchangeably to refer to one another. Frankly, I don't have the patience to work out whatever the hell you're trying to say, but Fullmetal Bullet is a 100% waste of inventory. Admittedly, I rolled the correct race and have a 2 STR ammo piece available to me, but even Balm Sachet is better than going out of your way to get Allied Tags. Hell, it's a multi-hit WS, keep Tiphia Sting on before going through that kind of nonsense.

I pic mean nothing, 3-4 post above, you post that you need to reactivate your account.
There is a little mistake in your Photoshop pic, that anyone that uses photoshop in regular basics can see..... forgot Im Computer engineer eh...
My english is bad, I know, I never study English, I learn on my own, I know the differences between red house and house red, and the way the sentences are built in Europe and Usa.
I know I put comas on wrong places or forgot one aphostrophe, but Im sure you understand the meaning of the sentence.
My English never matter to you when I was a new monk and I was asking questions, when I stop asking and I start test by my self you turn around and attack my English.
Is the samething that you and your buddys been doing for years to people that post something new and is not a question, that's why someone, no remember hes name, start with the Ki-mafia thing.
I jump to the defensive because you, everytime I post something, you and some others try to made fun of me, but the fun thing is see people go other forums and ask kinematics to do the math for them... No posting no mean I don't read forums.
I don't care if some one post that to lvl guard you need to /sam, I will test my self and see if work or try find one alternative, no because Veggeto say he can solo stuff mnk/???, and I try and die in 2 hits, I going to post back that hes a morron and that no work, he inspire me to find a way to do it, if a mnk can other monk can too, no every way works for everyone, is hard to mach people that use 20 lines of macro but is ways around.
What I try to say is, if you want people to respect you, start respecting people, and no call them retards because they no have this or that gear or have done things whit very rare ways, if work for them, find a way with your resources to do it.
As I explain to you, I know the differences between Sigil (which is refresh, regen, meal....) and tag (which activate any item effect under campain, and let you get goddies from the npc).
Tiphia Sting no thank you, as I say I have Astrolabe.
Correct race...... you say.....lol
Galkas will say they are the ones... high vit and str, humans will say.... they are balaced str, vit and dex
To be real, for every point of acc you need to add, because Elvans have less dex (and monks need alot acc) a human can add str or attack, so anyone can see that there is no correct race.
Again, this was a test and you turned into a big deal.
You can keep going around and around in circles, was long ago that I realized what kind of person are you.

This post has been edited by islandboy: 04 July 2010 - 07:24 PM

[pathwriter]

islandboy, on 04 July 2010 - 06:52 PM, said:

As I explain to you, I know the differences between Sigil (which is refresh, regen, meal....) and tag (which activate any item effect under campain, and let you get goddies from the npc).

Did you explain that? I seriously cannot read most of what you write and I must have missed it. At any rate, it's still not excuse for calling Allied Tags "Campaign signet." You have an Astrolabe and you're dealing with a multi-hit weaponskill... use it, argument over.

[Deo2]

All that aside. Is OAT all I need to make Footwork useable? KickDmg+ shoes required?

Do Faith Baghnakhs' OAT activate on Footwork?

[Banter]

Deo2, on 05 July 2010 - 07:34 PM, said:

All that aside. Is OAT all I need to make Footwork useable? KickDmg+ shoes required?

Do Faith Baghnakhs' OAT activate on Footwork?

Mostly, but OA3 is better, yes, no.

[Algeron]

Heheh sig worthy.

[Mushra]

Sorry to bumb but this is probably the best area to ask/mention this but I parsed my Limbus run today with unexpected results. Sadly I haven't ever seen my self kick 3 full times by animation of course I macro in stuff like boost or gear swap but I got a soboro and merc kris so I got a good general idea on what to look for. Is it just not working as it should during footwork or was it never meant to tripple attack on footwork but only fisting? Sorry for the lame copy paste thing but I'm fairly new to posting in forums >_> just want to know if anyone seen 3 kicks so far.





[pre]Damage Summary
Player Total Dmg Damage % Melee Dmg Range Dmg Abil. Dmg WSkill Dmg Spell Dmg Other Dmg
Dann 17279 10.17 % 0 0 0 0 17279 0
Doonie 9714 5.72 % 5923 0 0 3081 0 710
Fuuneko 12842 7.56 % 0 0 0 0 12842 0
Gozari 5611 3.30 % 3779 0 0 1789 0 43
Jaybezz 6057 3.57 % 3207 132 0 2684 0 34
Leuproubian 129 0.08 % 129 0 0 0 0 0
Mazak 14458 8.51 % 10626 0 0 3777 0 55
Mushra 36993 21.78 % 21431 0 15398 0 0 164
Raitaro 15955 9.39 % 7378 0 0 8577 0 0
Rinka 10 0.01 % 0 0 0 0 10 0
Rysus 11376 6.70 % 6627 0 745 2573 1431 0
Spineshank 15090 8.88 % 9185 0 5793 0 0 112
Taruguru 8077 4.76 % 0 0 0 0 8077 0
Yukagama 5919 3.48 % 0 0 0 0 5919 0
Caprice 6812 4.01 % 412 0 0 0 6400 0
SC: Compression 482 0.28 % 0 0 0 0 0 0
SC: Detonation 288 0.17 % 0 0 0 0 0 0
SC: Fragmentation 738 0.43 % 0 0 0 0 0 0
SC: Fusion 1142 0.67 % 0 0 0 0 0 0
SC: Impaction 581 0.34 % 0 0 0 0 0 0
SC: Liquefaction 306 0.18 % 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 169859 100.00 % 68697 132 21936 22481 51958 1118


Melee Damage
Player Melee Dmg Melee % Hit/Miss M.Acc % M.Low/Hi M.Avg #Crit C.Low/Hi C.Avg Crit%
Doonie 5923 60.97 % 240/17 93.39 % 0/60 21.34 24 19/320 54.71 10.00 %
Gozari 3779 67.35 % 99/6 94.29 % 14/84 33.73 13 31/132 67.54 13.13 %
Jaybezz 3207 52.95 % 203/8 96.21 % 0/42 14.56 15 0/85 31.33 7.39 %
Leuproubian 129 100.00 % 7/2 77.78 % 8/26 17.40 2 0/42 21.00 28.57 %
Mazak 10626 73.50 % 297/32 90.27 % 0/89 30.51 45 21/132 65.27 15.15 %
Mushra 21431 57.93 % 262/20 92.91 % 0/189 75.32 32 29/251 128.38 12.21 %
Raitaro 7378 46.24 % 121/14 89.63 % 0/154 59.05 7 50/195 92.29 5.79 %
Rysus 6627 58.25 % 76/3 96.20 % 0/230 85.28 9 72/265 101.44 11.84 %
Spineshank 9185 60.87 % 121/8 93.80 % 23/179 73.26 9 55/193 108.89 7.44 %
Caprice 412 6.05 % 15/3 83.33 % 16/61 27.47 0 0/0 0.00 0.00 %


Ranged Damage
Player Range Dmg Range % Hit/Miss R.Acc % R.Low/Hi R.Avg #Crit C.Low/Hi C.Avg Crit%
Jaybezz 132 2.18 % 8/14 36.36 % 8/37 17.29 1 11/11 11.00 12.50 %


Other Magical Damage (Additional Effects and Spikes)
Player M.AE Dmg # M.AE M.AE Avg R.AE Dmg # R.AE R.AE Avg Spk.Dmg # Spike Spk.Avg
Doonie 710 100 7.10 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00
Gozari 43 6 7.17 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00
Jaybezz 34 6 5.67 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00
Mazak 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00 0 1 0.00
Spineshank 21 3 7.00 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.00


Other Physical Damage (Counterattacks and Retaliations)
Player CA.Dmg CA.Hit/Miss CA.Low/Hi CA.Avg Ret.Dmg Ret.Hit/Miss Ret.Low/Hi Ret.Avg
Mazak 55 1/0 55/55 55.00 0 0/0 0/0 0.00
Mushra 164 2/0 35/129 82.00 0 0/0 0/0 0.00
Spineshank 91 1/0 91/91 91.00 0 0/0 0/0 0.00


Weaponskill Damage
Player WSkill Dmg WSkill % Hit/Miss WS.Acc % WS.Low/Hi WS.Avg
Doonie 3081 31.72 % 8/0 100.00 % 137/772 385.13
- Dancing Edge 484 15.71 % 1/0 100.00 % 484/484 484.00
- Evisceration 379 12.30 % 2/0 100.00 % 151/228 189.50
- Mandalic Stab 2081 67.54 % 4/0 100.00 % 263/772 520.25
- Shark Bite 137 4.45 % 1/0 100.00 % 137/137 137.00
Gozari 1789 31.88 % 4/0 100.00 % 230/846 447.25
- Stringing Pummel 1789 100.00 % 4/0 100.00 % 230/846 447.25
Jaybezz 2684 44.31 % 6/0 100.00 % 200/1156 447.33
- Dancing Edge 2684 100.00 % 6/0 100.00 % 200/1156 447.33
Mazak 3777 26.12 % 13/0 100.00 % 126/609 290.54
- Asuran Fists 3777 100.00 % 13/0 100.00 % 126/609 290.54
Raitaro 8577 53.76 % 18/1 94.74 % 174/1165 476.50
- Tachi: Gekko 7474 87.14 % 16/1 94.12 % 174/1165 467.13
- Tachi: Yukikaze 1103 12.86 % 2/0 100.00 % 351/752 551.50
Rysus 2573 22.62 % 8/0 100.00 % 0/610 321.63
- Guillotine 2573 100.00 % 8/0 100.00 % 0/610 321.63


Ability Damage
Player Abil. Dmg Abil. % Hit/Miss A.Acc % A.Low/Hi A.Avg
Mushra 15398 41.62 % 33/0 100.00 % 70/1098 466.61
- Chi Blast 70 0.45 % 1/0 100.00 % 70/70 70.00
- Tornado Kick 15328 99.55 % 32/0 100.00 % 168/1098 479.00
Rysus 745 6.55 % 3/0 100.00 % 162/322 248.33
- Infernal Scythe 745 100.00 % 3/0 100.00 % 162/322 248.33
Spineshank 5793 38.39 % 11/0 100.00 % 109/1159 526.64
- Tornado Kick 5793 100.00 % 11/0 100.00 % 109/1159 526.64


Spell Damage
Player Spell Dmg Spell % #Spells #Fail S.Low/Hi S.Avg #MBurst MB.Low/Hi MB.Avg
Dann 17279 100.00 % 21 0 0/1401 822.81 0 0/0 0.00
- Aero IV 919 5.32 % 1 0 919/919 919.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Blizzard IV 3238 18.74 % 3 0 999/1194 1079.33 0 0/0 0.00
- Drain 979 5.67 % 5 0 0/337 195.80 0 0/0 0.00
- Stone V 10719 62.03 % 10 0 534/1401 1071.90 0 0/0 0.00
- Thunder IV 1066 6.17 % 1 0 1066/1066 1066.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Water IV 358 2.07 % 1 0 358/358 358.00 0 0/0 0.00
Fuuneko 12842 100.00 % 22 0 0/1357 583.73 0 0/0 0.00
- Aero IV 874 6.81 % 1 0 874/874 874.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Blizzard IV 5078 39.54 % 5 0 470/1226 1015.60 0 0/0 0.00
- Drain 1182 9.20 % 10 0 0/321 118.20 0 0/0 0.00
- Fire IV 1056 8.22 % 1 0 1056/1056 1056.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Stone V 1357 10.57 % 1 0 1357/1357 1357.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Thunder IV 2426 18.89 % 3 0 302/1179 808.67 0 0/0 0.00
- Water IV 869 6.77 % 1 0 869/869 869.00 0 0/0 0.00
Rinka 10 100.00 % 1 0 10/10 10.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Dia III 10 100.00 % 1 0 10/10 10.00 0 0/0 0.00
Rysus 1431 12.58 % 5 0 216/339 286.20 0 0/0 0.00
- Drain 216 15.09 % 1 0 216/216 216.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Drain II 1215 84.91 % 4 0 238/339 303.75 0 0/0 0.00
Taruguru 8077 100.00 % 15 0 128/1025 538.47 0 0/0 0.00
- Blizzard III 3978 49.25 % 7 0 276/661 568.29 0 0/0 0.00
- Blizzard IV 2757 34.13 % 4 0 133/1025 689.25 0 0/0 0.00
- Drain 386 4.78 % 2 0 128/258 193.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Thunder IV 956 11.84 % 2 0 355/601 478.00 0 0/0 0.00
Yukagama 5919 100.00 % 6 0 171/1342 986.50 0 0/0 0.00
- Aero IV 171 2.89 % 1 0 171/171 171.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Blizzard IV 795 13.43 % 1 0 795/795 795.00 0 0/0 0.00
- Stone V 4953 83.68 % 4 0 1102/1342 1238.25 0 0/0 0.00
Caprice 6400 93.95 % 11 0 192/1188 581.82 0 0/0 0.00
- Drain 661 10.33 % 3 0 192/254 220.33 0 0/0 0.00
- Stone V 4162 65.03 % 6 0 277/1188 693.67 0 0/0 0.00
- Thunder IV 1577 24.64 % 2 0 641/936 788.50 0 0/0 0.00


Skillchain Damage
Skillchain SC Dmg # SC SC.Low/Hi SC.Avg
SC: Compression 482 1 482/482 482.00
SC: Detonation 288 2 113/175 144.00
SC: Fragmentation 738 3 127/473 246.00
SC: Fusion 1142 3 219/685 380.67
SC: Impaction 581 2 11/570 290.50
SC: Liquefaction 306 1 306/306 306.00



[/pre]

[Banter]

Not fucking sorting through that.

[Deo2]

Implied that he has OA3 claws... not directly stating it

If you want to see your kick attack 3 times, I recommend hitting a lesser colibri and like... not gear swap.

Details salvaged from brick of parser text:
He dealt 21% dmg
Other fighters were 2 mnks, a sam, a drk, a pup, and 2 dagger classes

[Banter]

You can't kick 3 times in a row with the OA3 claws.

[Mushra]

Deo2, on 19 July 2010 - 05:19 PM, said:

Implied that he has OA3 claws... not directly stating it

If you want to see your kick attack 3 times, I recommend hitting a lesser colibri and like... not gear swap.

Details salvaged from brick of parser text:
He dealt 21% dmg
Other fighters were 2 mnks, a sam, a drk, a pup, and 2 dagger classes

Never implied it, I screenshotted it in the accomplishment thread a two or so days ago but my question shouldn't cock block other people's accomplishments so I asked here seeing as Cream is so close to it and Path, including some others, already have it. ;;
Beside the pup being a pup, the other DDs were doing well until we reached elemental floor. Formless Strikes saved my ass, can't say otherwise about the others since the parse broke my in-game chat log and would reset it every few lines. >.>;

[Deo2]

So... the parser doesn't say much in a Mnk vs Other Job basis. On Mnk vs Mnk aka 3xFootwork-Tornado vs HtH-Asuran Fists basis, that would depend on Mazak having used Formless Strikes on those elementals, any level/gear differences, and if he went afk, died, or was in a different party than you (brd/cor/haste differences).

Formless Strikes + Footwork? I'm intrigued.

/rant section
I don't look at the achievement threads. I should probably visit that later to 'catch up on the latest trends'.

Are you guys certain that SE won't nerf this?

/tangent: Footwork still treats Str:Atk and Dex:Acc ratio as 1handed right?

This post has been edited by Deo2: 20 July 2010 - 07:49 PM

[pathwriter]

Footwork doesn't change the STR and DEX formulas, correct. The Attack boost from Footwork is about on par with the STR formula for 2H weapons, though. Kyoshu Kyahan used to bridge the gap on Accuracy, but Poise Shoes have muddied that water a little bit.

As far as SE nerfing this, I sincerely doubt it. Mind you, I've hedged my bets and gotten the best non-Ursine standard punchy-punch weapons I could get, just in case, but they've been pushing hard for Monk to use Footwork. They read these forums, too, we know this for a fact and nothing has been done in three months. It's not like the Salvage dupes where that was deliberately exploiting shitty code and keeping it hidden. This seems very deliberate on SE's part except that they never told anyone explicitly. That they gave us a powerful new Kick-based weaponskill cements their intentions in my mind.

Oh, and Formless Strikes does work with Footwork.

[Banter]

The ATK bonus from Footwork is actually quite a bit larger than the bonus from having a 2hander. Generally, a 2hander is going to get in the area of an extra 20 attack. Footwork is about 10% of base (I think 9.5% exactly, but 10% is easier) which is going to be right around 40 attack.

[pathwriter]

Shhh... I like nearly having Dark Knight Attack before outside buffs.

[Banter]

pathwriter, on 20 July 2010 - 10:15 PM, said:

Shhh... I like nearly having Dark Knight Attack before outside buffs.

Well, I think a well geared DRK TPs in somewhere around 500 if I'm not mistaken so... can come close but not quite.

[Garr]

Cream Soda, on 30 June 2010 - 09:35 PM, said:

Basically have two builds

//cancel 68
/equip head "Anwig salade"
/equip neck "Thunder Gorget"
/equip ammo "Bibiki Seashell"
/equip body "Kirin's Osode"
/equip hands "Tpl. Gloves +1"
/equip ring2 "Rajas Ring"
/equip ring1 "Flame Ring"
/equip waist "Warwolf Belt"
/equip legs "Usukane Hizayoroi"
/equip feet "Kyoshu Kyahan"
/equip back "Forager's Mantle"
/equip ear2 "Bushinomimi"
/ja "Boost" Tigerwoods
/wait 1
/equip hands "Alkyoneus's Brc."
/ws "Tornado Kick" <t>


And for the second build, swap Kyoshu for Dune boots. If it's something w/ shit evasion, then I'll use genbu's kabuto.

But yea, 25 ws acc head and 20 acc on feet, I go dmg+ everywhere else rly.

Forgive my ignorance but why cancel warcry before the ws?

This is what my Tornado Kick looks like (forgive my crappy gear, this is an alt I created after quitting my taru):
input /ja "Footwork" <me>
wait 1
input /p Kick made of Epic Win Incoming--Tornado Kick!
input /equip Neck "Spike Necklace"
input /equip Ring1 "Flame Ring"
input /equip Ring2 "Sun Ring"
input /equip Waist "Warwolf Belt"
input /equip Legs "Republic Subligar"
input /equip Feet "Kung Fu Shoes"
input /equip Hands "Temple Gloves"
input /equip Head "Aurore Beret"
input /equip Body "Kirin's Osode"
input /equip Ammo "Bibiki Seashell"
input /ja "Boost" <me>
wait 1.2
input /equip Hands "Pallas's Bracelets"
input /ws "Tornado Kick" <t>
wait 1
HasteKit
cancel 406

(HasteKit = alias)

Edit: Updated macro

This post has been edited by Garr: 28 July 2010 - 09:07 AM

[pathwriter]

Warcry is inferior to and does not stack with Boost.

[Garr]

pathwriter, on 21 July 2010 - 10:51 AM, said:

Warcry is inferior to and does not stack with Boost.

Oh, of course. I should have known. Thanks, path. I'll add that to my scripts.