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This is going to be, hopefully, a helpful guide to those wondering if they can or cannot run Final Fantasy XIV, the new MMORPG from Square-Enix.
Everything is based on the system requirements posted for the BETA version of Final Fantasy XIV.

Part I. System Requirements. (http://na.finalfanta...bout/game_info)
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Part II. How to check the hardware of your current system.

The normal way is to go to Device Manager and look at the individual devices of your computer that is installed.

The best method is to use one of two programs: CPUID and Speccy. Both are freeware programs and easy to use.

By knowing the hardware of your current system, you can compare them to the system requirements for Final Fantasy XIV above.

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CPU-Z is mostly for providing details about your CPU and RAM, but also tells you what type of motherboard and video card is installed in your computer.

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Speccy provides much detailed information including temperature, hard drive(s) installed, and the peripherals connected to your computer.

What to look for?

When you find out information about your computer's hardware or the computer you are about to purchase, take note of the three important facts (other than price):

  • CPU
    • Make and model. (i.e.- Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, E8400 is model and Core 2 Duo is the make)
    • Speed (i.e.- Any number before "GHz" is the speed of the CPU such as 3.2 GHz or 2.4 GHz)
  • RAM
    • Look at the total capacity (i.e.- 6.0 GB or 1.5 GB, etc.)
  • Video card/GPU
    • Make and model. (i.e.- ATI Radeon HD 5750, Radeon HD is the make and 5750 is the model)
    • Video memory (VRAM). (i.e.- 512 MB VRAM or 224 MB shared, etc.) The higher the VRAM means higher resolution games and larger, detailed textures and 3D geometry.
    • PCI-Express. This is the connector, or interface, the video card uses to connect to the computer. Avoid older, out-dated connections such as AGP and PCI.
After taking those three into account, use it to compare to the following sections found below.

Part III. FFXIV Benchmark

Now, that you know your hardware, it is time to test it with the Final Fantasy XIV Benchmark.

The benchmark is available here at the following websites:

You can test your system using the benchmark provided and see how well you score. It also allows you to test in two resolutions:
  • LOW - 1280 x 720 (720p)
  • HIGH - 1920 x 1080 (1080p)

NOTICE: DO NOT USE THE BENCHMARK'S SCORES AS A WAY OF DETERMINING WHETHER YOUR COMPUTER CAN OR CANNOT RUN FINAL FANTASY 14.

When you run the benchmark, take notice of how the graphics and audio are running in the benchmark demo as it is running on your computer.

Take note of the following:
- Consistent frame rate - Does the animation seem smooth or do they seem jittery and jumpy?
- Smooth transitioning from one scene to the next - Does one scene transition to the other without pausing or skipping?
- Stable audio voices and effects - Do the audio-- voices, effects, and music-- work without sounding scratchy, off cue, or pausing or skipping frequently?

Do this on both LOW and HIGH. If your computer cannot handle HIGH, try LOW.


View PostUragirimono, on 04 July 2010 - 04:33 PM, said:

Just FYI the benchmark they released for FFXIV is utter garbage. You can get a score of 200 from it and run the alpha just fine. You can get a max score and run it sluggishly.

Just match the system specs vs yours. Don't rely on the benchmark.


At the end of the benchmark, your system will be scored using the following scale:

[8000 and over] Extremely High Performance
Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.

[5500–7999] Very High Performance
Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.

[4500-5499] High Performance
Easily capable of running the game. Should perform well, even at higher resolutions.

[3000-4499] Fairly High Performance
Capable of running the game on default settings. Consider switching to a higher resolution depending on performance.

[2500-2999] Standard Performance
Capable of running the game on default settings.

[2000-2499] Slightly Low Performance
Capable of running the game, but may experience some slowdown. Adjust settings to improve performance.

[1500-1999] Low Performance
Capable of running the game, but will experience considerable slowdown. Adjusting settings is unlikely to improve performance.

[Under 1500] Insufficient Performance
Does not meet specifications for running the game.

Notes:
If you receive a low score on a very good PC, then that is the benchmark's fault. Read the NOTICE above regarding the benchmark. The benchmark may erroneously give your computer a LOW score.

Before proceeding, read first:
If you notice the CPU and GPU list below, and it's probably not complete, but don't expect to run FFXIV on the following based on the system requirements:
  • Any netbook or thin-and-light laptop
    • Lower speed processors - less than 2.0 GHz
    • Integrated GPU - Nvidia Ion, Intel GMA, low-end/low power ATI or Nvidia GPU
    • Low memory - No more than 4 GB, 1 or 2 GB normally
  • Any single-core CPU older than 5 years
  • Any computer older than 5 years, especially those built before 2008
  • Any budget CPU such as Celeron (Intel) or Sempron (AMD)
  • Any DESKTOP dual core CPU below 2.0 GHz-- this is the cutoff
  • Any DESKTOP quad core CPU below 2.0 GHz; and any LAPTOP quad core CPU below 1.6 GHz
  • Any single core CPU clocked below 3.6 to 3.7 GHz
  • Any LAPTOP dual core CPU below 2.0 GHz
  • ALL low-voltage, ultra low-voltage, and CULV processors
  • Any Nvidia video card made before February 2008 (9600 GT release)
  • Any ATI video card made before May 2007 (2900 XT release)
  • Any GPU made by Intel, Via, SiS, Matrox
  • Any BUDGET DESKTOP GPU made by ATI (2900, 3850, 4670, or 5570 are the lowest you can go in their respective families)
  • Any BUDGET DESKTOP GPU made by Nvidia (9600, 240, or 330 are the lowest you can go in their respective families)
  • Any INTEGRATED GPU built by ATI or Nvidia with no dedicated memory to itself
  • Any LAPTOP GPU lower than a desktop-equivalent performance of a Nvidia 9600, 240, 330, or 465; or ATI 2900, 3870, 4670, 5570
  • Any BUDGET desktop computer (full system excluding monitor) under $650 USD
  • Any laptop computer below $1100 to $1200 (approximate for mid-range laptops with dedicated GPU)

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NOTE:
The following charts for CPU and GPU are approximations on their actual performance. Your experience will vary.

However, these recommendations are to have at least PLAYABLE performance for FFXIV.

Part IV.
CPU-- What would make the cut? What won't?


I will use the base CPU listed by Square-Enix as the lowest you can use to run Final Fantasy XIV.

The CPU will be designated by their model and I will use their equivalent performance using the following chart found here as a BASIS: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/

Again, the minimum CPU required for Final Fantasy XIV:
Intel Core 2 Duo (2.0 GHz) - 1168 Passmark (Core 2 Duo E4400)
AMD Athlon X2 (2.0 GHz) - 1153 Passmark (Athlon64 X2 Dual Core 4200+ @ 2.2 GHz)


Consider upgrading from (if your PC or laptop is upgradeable) or avoiding (in a new or current computer system) the following CPUs if it falls into the following...
... from Intel:

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... from AMD:

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Look for CPUs to upgrade to (in an old system) or to have (in a new or current system) with the following...

... from Intel:

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... from AMD:

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Part V. Video Card-- What will run FFXIV? Even if just playable?

For video cards, this will be a little more detailed. I will add "(FFXI)" so you can see what GPUs USED to or can CURRENTLY run Final Fantasy XI but will or will not run Final Fantasy XIV. Keep that in mind.

GPU requirements for FFXIV:
  • Nvidia GeForce 9600 with 512 MB VRAM or higher
  • ATI Radeon HD 2900 with 512 MB VRAM or higher

Now, some terminology and wordplay explanation here:

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AVOID the following GPUs/video cards:
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or look for the following video cards:
(Desktop-equivalent means its approximate closest performance for a mobile GPU.)

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Part VI. Shopping Help.

This section is just for shopping tips when looking for a new computer or building a new one. Also, keep in mind any examples here are just that-- examples. Use them as a template when looking for a new computer.

General guidelines when looking into purchasing a new computer or upgrading:

1. Realistic budget.

If you set out to look for a new computer to play Final Fantasy XIV and gave yourself a budget of no more than $300, then you are being very unrealistic. At $300, you are looking at a low-end netbook, low-end desktop, or a 120 GB PS3 Slim at $299 (and having to wait until March 2011 to play).

Therefore, always set a realistic budget. You could build a decent computer yourself for around $400 to $500 if you already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, DVD drive, and a hard drive.

Name brand computers with non-integrated video cards and a decent processor will usually start at $600 or $700 without a monitor. That is typical from Dell or similar name-brand manufacturers.

Expect to spend $1000 to $2000 on average for a mid-range PC, as you add a mid-range to high-end video card along with a better mid-range or high-end dual core or quad core CPU, with 4 GB or 6 GB of RAM.

You'll exceed $2000 if you are going for high-end parts like a quad core CPU and a high-end video card, or two video cards.

If you don't have the money right away to purchase new parts or a new computer, save a little each week or each month. Be sure to set the lowest, realistic amount you can spend on a computer and a maximum you can afford so you have some "wiggle room" if you want better performing parts in your computer.

Only go for high-end parts if you are really into 3D gaming, tend to overclock or tweak your system specs, and/or are a gaming enthusiast and, of course, have the money for it.

But, above all, be realistic with what you want in your computer.

Read guides on the Internet regarding on how to build your computer and what to shop for. (Google is your best friend here.)
- Best Graphics cards for the Money - March 2010 (Thank you, dyire.): http://www.tomshardw...-card,2569.html

- Tom's Hardware - How to Build a PC: http://www.tomshardw...wn-pc,2601.html

- TechSpot Buying Guide (June 2010): http://www.techspot.com/guides/buying/


2. Determine what you will use the computer for other than Final Fantasy XIV.

If you are going to be mainly playing 3D games on your computer alongside Final Fantasy XIV, look for a PC (desktop or laptop) with the following:
  • Fast CPU of no less than 2.4 GHz with dual cores; quad core would be nice but not many games take advantage of multiple threads/multiple cores... yet.
  • 4 GB of RAM at minimum; 6 GB of RAM recommended with a 64-bit OS
  • A spacious hard drive-- 500 GB at minimum
  • A motherboard dedicated for overclocking and system tweaking. These are boards typically above $150 to $200+ USD. Higher-end boards will be pushing $300 or more.
If you are going to use your computer just for Final Fantasy XIV, you can dial down the system specs and go for something average and spend less on your computer, thus saving yourself money.

If you are looking to do some graphics editing on your PC alongside FFXIV, look into more memory and a fast CPU, especially a quad core.

But, above all, look to the first point above and be realistic with your spending goals. Determine what you will be doing on your computer and go from there.

3. Name brand versus Build-it-yourself.

This pretty much boils down to whether you want a warranty or not.

Name brand PC makers like Apple or Dell, and many others, have (expensive) warranty options that cover everything from parts and labor to replacement parts and in-home service (like Dell's).

When stuck with building your own PC, you are left with only the manufacturer's warranty which typically lasts anywhere from 90 days to 1 year, sometimes 3 years. Other manufactuers tend to offer step-up programs or lifetime warranties. If you are in this position, always, and I can't emphasize this enough, register your hardware with the manufacturer on their website or mail in the registration card. And, always keep the receipt and the UPC labels in case you need them in the future.

So, in a typical "pro vs. con" scenario, it would look like this:

Building your own computer

Pro
- Freedom of choice in the parts you can install
- Tweak to your heart's content and customization
- Ability to stay within budget and keep the prices low

Con
- Lack of warranties and services that name brands offer
- Lack of knowledge on how to build your own PC

Buying name brand

Pro
- Better warranties and services
- Build quality (varies by manufacturer...)
- Ability to easily find the PC you want that suits you
- Price will be somewhat lower than building your own since name brands buy in bulk

Con
- Price may typically be higher than building your own because many times you're paying for the "name" of the PC or marked up prices for them to make a profit
- Lack of customization and choice of parts unless you go to someone like FalconNorthwest, Alienware, or CyberpowerPC, etc.
- Talking to customer and technical support

Shopping examples.


Example 1: Alienware
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Example 2: Build your own
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Example 3: Customizing with CyberPowerPC.com
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so can i use intelGMA 950 to run this ijust got 2 ram in there and i have 4 sticks total and cna play conterstikre and iwas wonder if i could ply 14 with this or do i have to get more ram??? plz help
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View PostDyire, on 04 July 2010 - 03:22 PM, said:

so can i use intelGMA 950 to run this ijust got 2 ram in there and i have 4 sticks total and cna play conterstikre and iwas wonder if i could ply 14 with this or do i have to get more ram??? plz help



Hahahaha... No. :P
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Just FYI the benchmark they released for FFXIV is utter garbage. You can get a score of 200 from it and run the alpha just fine. You can get a max score and run it sluggishly.

Just match the system specs vs yours. Don't rely on the benchmark.
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View PostUragirimono, on 04 July 2010 - 04:33 PM, said:

Just FYI the benchmark they released for FFXIV is utter garbage. You can get a score of 200 from it and run the alpha just fine. You can get a max score and run it sluggishly.

Just match the system specs vs yours. Don't rely on the benchmark.


Thank you for that, Ura. I'm going to quote you for that above. I would have to honestly say I agree with you.
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I have 3.41ghz quadcore cpu, 16gb ram, 1.8gb gpu, can I play, or do I need to start overclocking? :(
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So, in short, if you don't have one of these, you're humped:

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View PostVigilous, on 04 July 2010 - 07:58 PM, said:

So, in short, if you don't have one of these, you're humped:

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:( guess that's a no.
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so, is 14 supposed to be hd for pc...cuz i was contemplating leaving out the new hd monitor out of the equation, cuz i got a monitor 2 years ago, thats about 3 inches smaller then what you suggested, and not hd lol >.>
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View Postrenzuko, on 04 July 2010 - 09:31 PM, said:

so, is 14 supposed to be hd for pc...cuz i was contemplating leaving out the new hd monitor out of the equation, cuz i got a monitor 2 years ago, thats about 3 inches smaller then what you suggested, and not hd lol >.>



If you're going to buy a new monitor, get a 120hz one.

http://www.newegg.co...monitor&x=0&y=0

http://www.newegg.co...9-001-_-Product

There's two entry level ones, 3D ready.

This post has been edited by thunderblazeFF14: 04 July 2010 - 09:35 PM

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im in canada, a 3d monitor out in the us, is like half the price of the only 3d monitor that showed up on my search on newegg canada

http://www.newegg.ca...22CVF-_-Product
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View Postrenzuko, on 04 July 2010 - 09:41 PM, said:

im in canada, a 3d monitor out in the us, is like half the price of the only 3d monitor that showed up on my search on newegg canada

http://www.newegg.ca...22CVF-_-Product


Keep watching it, price has been dropping on it.

I'm going to get a 3D monitor for FFXIV, need a 2nd monitor anyway for when I dual box, going to have 2 desktops set up so I can PL myself :)

This post has been edited by thunderblazeFF14: 04 July 2010 - 10:22 PM

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Let's talk about prices here, what can someone low budget like me get for a PC that doesn't lag like hell. Whenever I'm doing campaign on FFXI I can't even face to the horde of npcs/mobs/pcs without freaking dcing 'cause I get the message of "your display card has stoped working, but it has recovered" kind of message? I got little time before the release of the game and I want to know how much should I have for it. I'm not sure if I can go more than 700 bucks....hopefully less....I'm just that low on cash.
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im gettin seriously pissed...i searched windows 7 64 bit on the canadian site, clicked stuff only made by microsoft, and only operating systems, and this is the result page

http://www.newegg.ca...ating%20Systems

i click the same stuff on the american newegg site, and this is what i get

http://www.newegg.co...ating%20Systems

same amount of results, but all the copys of windows home 64 bit are replaced by french professional 64 bit on the canadian site -.-;;
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View PostVangoh32, on 04 July 2010 - 10:39 PM, said:

Let's talk about prices here, what can someone low budget like me get for a PC that doesn't lag like hell. Whenever I'm doing campaign on FFXI I can't even face to the horde of npcs/mobs/pcs without freaking dcing 'cause I get the message of "your display card has stoped working, but it has recovered" kind of message? I got little time before the release of the game and I want to know how much should I have for it. I'm not sure if I can go more than 700 bucks....hopefully less....I'm just that low on cash.


Well, if you want a decent computer...look to spend around the following:

Assume:
Motherboard: 100
PSU: 100
CPU: 180
GPU: 150
Win 7 oem: 100
HD: 50
Memory Modules: 100
Dvd drive: 20

Total: 800

If you don't have a case, throw on an extra 50-100.

Somewhere around there, probably forgetting something.

If you want me to list actual parts, I could for you, but I'd suggest just watching newegg --- keep in mind, prices fluctuate each week. A PC i spent around 2,000ish making in October, would be cheaper to make today.

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View PostthunderblazeFF14, on 04 July 2010 - 11:46 PM, said:

Well, if you want a decent computer...look to spend around the following:

Assume:
Motherboard: 100
PSU: 100
CPU: 180
GPU: 150
Win 7 oem: 100
HD: 50
Memory Modules: 100
Dvd drive: 20

Total: 800

If you don't have a case, throw on an extra 50-100.

Somewhere around there, probably forgetting something.

If you want me to list actual parts, I could for you, but I'd suggest just watching newegg --- keep in mind, prices fluctuate each week. A PC i spent around 2,000ish making in October, would be cheaper to make today.


wow that's too damn expensive and I don't know shit about computers....guess I'll be asking a friend or whoever around here see if I can get it cheaper...
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View PostVangoh32, on 04 July 2010 - 10:39 PM, said:

Let's talk about prices here, what can someone low budget like me get for a PC that doesn't lag like hell. Whenever I'm doing campaign on FFXI I can't even face to the horde of npcs/mobs/pcs without freaking dcing 'cause I get the message of "your display card has stoped working, but it has recovered" kind of message? I got little time before the release of the game and I want to know how much should I have for it. I'm not sure if I can go more than 700 bucks....hopefully less....I'm just that low on cash.


Intel

CPU - Core i3 530
RAM - A-DATA 4 GB DDR3 (2 GB x2)
Video Card - PowerColor Radeon HD 5670 (512 MB VRAM)
OS - Windows 7 Home Premium OEM
DVD-RW - ASUS DVDRW
Motherboard - ASRock H55M-LE
Case - Antec Three Hundred
HDD - WD 640 GB
PSU - Enermax 500W

Total = $690.72

After Tax/Shipping to California = $760.68

AMD

Remove the Core i3 530 and motherboard, then add an AMD Athlon II X3 440 and an MSI 870-G45 motherboard, you get the following:

Total = $625.87

After Tax/Shipping to California = $690.30
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