[Velhart]

http://www.1up.com/d...ory?cId=3180098

From 1up.com

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Remember how earlier this year we ran a story saying that Final Fantasy V and VI might never see the light of day on the Nintendo DS because of technical issues? Well, all hope might not be lost for handheld remakes of these two awesome classics -- Siliconera spoke with Square Enix's Shinji Hashimoto at E3 about the possibility of bringing these titles to the Nintendo 3DS instead, and he didn't rule it out.

"No decision has been made," he answered. But added that "Rather than creating [Final Fantasy] V or VI for the current DS we want to take a look to see how 3DS does, how it evolves, and then make a decision."

All signs point to the 3DS being yet another major success for Nintendo, and the hardware is certainly capable of doing both games justice -- let's hope Square Enix seriously considers making this a reality!

I will shit my pants if this is confirmed, I would love to see FFV and VI redone on the 3DS, think of the awesome possibilities you have on a system with powerful graphical capabilities.

[evilpaul]

I was under the imrpession that other than changing the displays the 3DS was the same CPU/hardware?

[Aeonknight]

Where's my FF7 remake?

Yea, I said it.

[Arkley]

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I was under the imrpession that other than changing the displays the 3DS was the same CPU/hardware?

The 3DS isn't just an updated DS with a 3D screen, it's an entirely new console that will be far more powerful than the current DS for sure, although exactly how much more powerful isn't currently know. A few sites have reported it to be more powerful than the Wii.

[Corrderio]

If they make an FF5 remake please for the love of god don't make any cheesy pop culture lines and have Faris talk normal instead of the pirate bullcrap.

[Vigilous]

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I was under the imrpession that other than changing the displays the 3DS was the same CPU/hardware?

It's actually looking to be somewhat more powerful than the Wii.

[Kenshiro]

I'd have to get a 3DS if this happened. FFV is one of the defining games of my adolescence and FFVI is the best entry in the series, in my opinion anyway.

[Cahlum!]

I liked faris talking like a pirate lol.

[Arkley]

Yeah, I like the pirate talk and the lame humour and pop culture references. FF V was the only FF game that wasn't stuck up its own ass with tedious angst and pretentious drama. It was lighthearted, amusing, and virtually a parody of its genre. Let's keep it that way and maybe throw in a joke about Britney Spears this time rather than doing away with the heart and soul of the game.

[Velhart]

Arkley, on 11 July 2010 - 09:33 PM, said:

Yeah, I like the pirate talk and the lame humour and pop culture references. FF V was the only FF game that wasn't stuck up its own ass with tedious angst and pretentious drama. It was lighthearted, amusing, and virtually a parody of its genre. Let's keep it that way and maybe throw in a joke about Britney Spears this time rather than doing away with the heart and soul of the game.

The good thing about the remake of 3 and 4 was that it went straight from the original script and scenes, but were done in 3D and one with voice acting. I highly doubt Square-Enix will tarnish something that isn't broken. Bartz and ExDeath's voice actors were great in Dissidia and hope they are used for the remake.

[Corrderio]

Eh, maybe it's just me then. I just found it odd that for FF4 and FF6 they made them more faithful to the JP script but they did a complete 180 for FFV.

[Velhart]

Well all Ted Woosley did the translation of the original script to the best of his abilities and take out anything that would piss off religious fanatics and soccor moms. Even the person who did the translation for FFV in the Anthology collection went straight from the japanese script in a way.

The GBA versions were done by someone else and done to appeal to a wider audience, so giving Faris a pirate accent gives her more of a ruffian type character and people get into her that way. It can be good or bad, it is your opinion, but it was a method that was a hit or miss.

If the remake is done with voice actors. I imagine they could have it that Faris is still using proper english, but can give a pirate like attitude/tone to it. I dunno, I don't care either way.

[Aeonknight]

Arkley, on 11 July 2010 - 09:33 PM, said:

Yeah, I like the pirate talk and the lame humour and pop culture references. FF V was the only FF game that wasn't stuck up its own ass with tedious angst and pretentious drama. It was lighthearted, amusing, and virtually a parody of its genre. Let's keep it that way and maybe throw in a joke about Britney Spears this time rather than doing away with the heart and soul of the game.

Really? And you would know this... how?

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Also, FF5,6 & 7 are the only FFs I've completed

We already know your attitude on these 3 entries of the series. Play the rest of it before you generically call them all shit. You may whole heartedly disagree with people's opinions on Final Fantasy as a whole, but at least they're basing their opinion off experience. What's your excuse?

[Velhart]

If I had to pick the most light hearted Final Fantasy, it would be FFV. I and III would be also, but in I, all the characters were made by you and was a role playing type of thing with them, and III had a very minimal amount of interaction with the main characters.

Arkley is right on that. I love all the Final Fantasys, but in all fairness, not many people beat games they don't like. Some may not like the story setting or the battle system, or how characters are displayed. You think I went past 5 hours on Unlimited Saga to fully judge the game? Hell no, that thing was the worst thing ever brought to RPG's and hope something that horrid is never made again.

[Aeonknight]

Velhart, on 12 July 2010 - 01:41 PM, said:

If I had to pick the most light hearted Final Fantasy, it would be FFV. I and III would be also, but in I, all the characters were made by you and was a role playing type of thing with them, and III had a very minimal amount of interaction with the main characters.

Arkley is right on that. I love all the Final Fantasys, but in all fairness, not many people beat games they don't like. Some may not like the story setting or the battle system, or how characters are displayed. You think I went past 5 hours on Unlimited Saga to fully judge the game? Hell no, that thing was the worst thing ever brought to RPG's and hope something that horrid is never made again.

Never said he had to play the full thing to pass judgment on certain aspects. You don't have to play 5 hours to judge the battle system, you can assess that in 15 minutes. But if you want to judge the plot, which he was doing with that statement, you gotta know it first. And not some watered down 4th grade book report on wiki either, the real thing.

[Velhart]

Aeonknight, on 12 July 2010 - 07:08 PM, said:

Never said he had to play the full thing to pass judgment on certain aspects. You don't have to play 5 hours to judge the battle system, you can assess that in 15 minutes. But if you want to judge the plot, which he was doing with that statement, you gotta know it first. And not some watered down 4th grade book report on wiki either, the real thing.

I can understand that and agree to an extent. But you know, I have never seen any Twilight movies, and really stupid people I know tell me it is a great movie, but I know it is a movie about pussy vampires who sparkle and average teenage girl who is not worth fighting over. Think I am going to go out and see that knowing the movie is about pussy vampires? Hell no. You can call it judging a book by it's cover, but I like to call it knowing my grounds. Some people just don't like certain things.

I can't ever convince strict WRPG players that JRPG's rock.

I can't ever convince sports game players that good games rock.

If he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it, now if someone comes in and gives retarded description on why he hates a certain game, you bet I will be in there to tell them off, but overall, you can't make everyone happy, even if it is for a dumb reason.

[Aeonknight]

The problem with that analogy is that the Twilight movies all have a common theme, and build towards a single plot. Same actors, same sparkle, same crap. Also, commercials give you a nice little preview (and in most cases sum up the entire plot) of the movie.
Now if arkley was dissing FF7 (he is) and all of the spin offs like crisis core, dirge of cerberus, etc., then your comparison would be relevant.

But seeing as how the FF's are all different from each other and entirely seperate plot wise, character wise, graphic wise, etc. You can't realistically criticize the plot of the entire series when they're all different, only because Final Fantasy is in the name.

In other words, if they were sequels to each other, you'd be right. But when he says shit on the entire series when playing less than a 4th of it, that be trollin'. Someone's gonna call him on it, why not me? I'm bored enough.

[Arkley]

I said I'd only completed three of them. I didn't say I'd never played more than those three. I put a few hours into FF IV on the DS but gave up after it became extraordinarily apparent that the main character was an emo Dark Knight with voice acting to match. I played FF VIII all the way up 'till a a couple of hours into the third disc, and if I remember correctly, I logged about 20~25 hours on FF X before I gave up. I completed the main story of Tactics Advance before I got tired of it, though that probably doesn't count because it isn't part of the main series and doesn't have a story worth mentioning. I never played XII, and I borrowed the first disc of XIII for the 360 from a friend but gave up after about 7 hours. You can accuse me of not knowing what FF XIII is about, sure, but here's the thing: you only have to skim through a GameSpot/IGN/Edge etc review to know that its plot is angsty and dramatic, and that brings me to my next point.

The problem with your assertion that I can't possibly know what I'm talking about when I criticise the FF series for being angsty and dramatic is largely mute when the FF series is fucking renowned for its angsty and dramatic storytelling. And don't delude yourself into thinking that anything more than a brief scroll through a wiki summary of the plot of any given FF game is necessary to understand it and conclude that it is, in fact, angsty and dramatic.

So, allow me to rephrase my original remark before another JRPG-humping weeaboo starts crying 'cause I pissed on his pokky:
"FF V is the only FF that I have played that doesn't get stuck up its own ass with tedious angst and pretentious drama. Based on my experiences with a large number of the titles in this series and their reputations, it is quite likely that FF V is, in fact, the only FF game of its kind. I appreciate its humour and parody-approach nature far more than I appreciate the attempts by the other games in the series to have me to sympathise with whiny girly-men. I feel it would be detrimental to remove FF V's unique charm and have it fall in line as just another FF game with just another typical FF story. In my opinion, it would be much better if it remained as a largely nonsensical game about a pirate, a princess, an old man and a kid named Butz who travel between planets in a meteor to kill an evil magic tree while wisecracking about pop culture."

Also, I don't like WRPGs either, unless Fallout 3 counts. Furthermore, cry harder. This really is one of my favourite topics.

[Aeonknight]

Who's crying? Your opinion is that of your own. I'm not going to lose any sleep tonight because you disagree or hurl typical insults for "fanboys" in my general direction. Weeabo? you're on a FF forum board genius.

Anyway let's go ahead and roll down the list.

FF1: Didn't play.
FF2: Didn't play.
FF3: Didn't play....
FF4: didn't even get Cecil to the point where he becomes PLD. The fact that that's considered a spoiler for one such as you, says enough. Didn't play.
FF5: where you get your jollies. But since you view it as a parody of JRPG's, that's kind of an insult in itself. Protip: they weren't kidding around.
FF6: You've already spoken your piece on it.
FF7: See above.
FF8: You actually made pretty decent headway into this. You made it past the halfway mark, fine you can comment on this one.
FF9: Didn't play.
FF10: 20 hours. Ok you did decent here, and I personally wasn't fond of it myself. We see eye to eye here.
FF11: ............
FF12: Didn't play.
FF13: played some, didn't like. Go figure, i'm not that fond of it myself. Looks pretty though.

Ok allow me to rephrase as you did. You didn't play half the series, and the other half you skimmed through it. Is that better?

Idk what critic you've been reading, but more often than not the FF series installment usually get pretty good reviews. Renowned for angsty girly men? Funny, I thought it was known for other points. In fact no one even openly criticized FF before Adam Sessler threw out his catchphrase about 7. "emo before emo was emo" was it? And now that's become #1 insult for it.
The reason why I stress you play the shit for yourself, is so you can interprete it for yourself and form a real opinion, instead of some trolling anti-fan boy's watered down version of it.

Have you tried FF tactics at all? Based on all the bullshit you've been throwing around about how no one has any character development or whatever, you may actually enjoy it.

[Vigilous]

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Idk what critic you've been reading, but more often than not the FF series installment usually get pretty good reviews.

Critics' reviews mean precisely dick. FFXIII was a travesty, and it got good reviews and made money. The Transformers movies got the shit reviews they deserved, and made obscene amounts of money. Bottom line is, don't bemoan someone for voicing their opinions and then claim reviews are the infallible word of god. Because at the end of the day, people will like whatever tickles their fancy and rubs them the right way, no matter how much interactivity they had with it. I despise Twilight, and all I read was the first 20 pages of the first book. Some times, if a person only gets a taste, that taste can sour them from finishing it or even bothering with the others of the same ilk.