[Madawc]

I logged on today to continue my quest. Need another 1250 Lizard killshots. After I buffed up I thought to myself "screw this", and I just logged off. One thing is to have #WS's, another is killshots.... If I am supposed to killshot 3500 mobs everytime Lvl cap goes up by 5 i'm done.

[Sakka_Valefor]

Well it's looking that way. See you again!

[grunion]

can i have your stuff

[Terranova]

Just looked up some of the relic trials, and yeah. Those are massively disgusting, even when you don't consider all the work that you put in beforehand to get the weapon in the first place. My 800 WS's against Birds trial is nasty in itself, and I have an Octave Club to help me. But yeah, I somehow have a feeling it's not going to change, since SE clearly wants to maintain the sanctity of the relic weapons by keeping their requirements as daunting as possible. So yeah. Sorry >.< really.

[Deo2]

It's probably a requirement to gather as many people as possible to hold as many monsters as possible and take them down to 5%. Then just pick up a 100% monster to TP on. Change targets, ws kill, change back.

Maybe they figure, "it takes an LS to make a Relic, so to all the folks that got a relic and left the linkshell: Sucks to be you!"

[Logan Draconia]

Did you expect it to be easy when it comes to the relic?

[marionette]

wish it was relic questlines instead to upgrade, with stories included to boot

2k kaiten killshots on birds has made me take a marginal step towards being insane

[Osvaldo]

Killing the same mob/types of mobs by the thousands is not difficult, it's just tedious and boring. I can't even do the NM trials because some NM's just have ridiculous respawn times. After killing an NM 2/4 times and waiting 1-8hrs respawn time... then realize it's still the first upgrade... it's usually time to abandon that kind of stupid shit lol.

[firefeng]

I'm now 5/50 through the very first trial to eventually make the ACC +16/DEX +6 Scythe. (ACC +~20 scythe/Aurum is better than Hauby/Store TP +7 scythe.) After killing 5 mandies in the 5 minutes (out of about 5 hours that I waited around) that the Boyahda Tree actually had a weather effect, I've decided this game is stupid, and I'm going to sleep.

But hey, I'm closer to this new scythe than I am that goddamn Redemption, which requires 50 drops from a mob that no one has fought yet.

Solution: Level a MF Sorc, kill Hell Mephisto/Baal thousands of times so I can make a ladder character that RAWKS.

This post has been edited by firefeng: 09 July 2010 - 02:15 PM

[Palomaru]

All the relic magian trials are beyond ridiculous. As if its not enough to finish the relic to begin with, now you HAVE to do some ridiculous giant kill quest to make your weapon decent... And theres going to be trials for each level cap raise probably...

[Banter]

man up

[Taint]

They are absolute crap, I'm trying my best to do 50-100 a day. The biggest thing that sucks is I'm stuck on DRK killing EP while my LSmates are farming abyssea, vnms and doing other events. I have 3-4 jobs I use endgame and they are all behind on magians because of terrible apoc.

[Banter]

Wow, must really suck not being able to be a casual player with a relic again.

[Goshtin]

it's a massive time sink, and not in a fun way
same as taint.. I havent even tried abyssea or levelled any other jobs to 80...
if they changed it to 2000 WSs instead of kill shot it wouldnt be as bad, but theres no logical need for them to.. because they know we'll have to do either

the fact that these magian weapons actually quite easily compare to relics now is a piss take in itself...the only thing apoc has for example is the WS now.. but when you have a scythe with similiar base.. spamming guillotine can close that "haste gap"
600 lizzies to go.. I couldnt bare this if I didnt leech a whm.. AND BESIDES cata isnt a massively powerful WS.. I'm usually WSing atleast twice on a mob before it dies..
bull fark

[UNCTGTG]

Goshtin, on 13 July 2010 - 03:34 AM, said:

it's a massive time sink, and not in a fun way
same as taint.. I havent even tried abyssea or levelled any other jobs to 80...
if they changed it to 2000 WSs instead of kill shot it wouldnt be as bad, but theres no logical need for them to.. because they know we'll have to do either

the fact that these magian weapons actually quite easily compare to relics now is a piss take in itself...the only thing apoc has for example is the WS now.. but when you have a scythe with similiar base.. spamming guillotine can close that "haste gap"
600 lizzies to go.. I couldnt bare this if I didnt leech a whm.. AND BESIDES cata isnt a massively powerful WS.. I'm usually WSing atleast twice on a mob before it dies..
bull fark

When I did the crabs solo I did min 3000 WSs on them cause I could open one, then abs TP and WS for kill shot. Thats not including all the ones I missed or got the stupid mob to 1% cause they threw up shield.

[Goshtin]

yeah that's the same kinda pace I'm at, but every 2nd lizard

[Taint]

Starting on lizards tonight, I was doing over 100 an hour last night on crabs duoing with a BST.

[Vawtwee]

I havent voted yet, but as others have said, this is an incredibly massive time sync. I'm doing trials for amano as well (so 13,000 trials total, wee) and it's making me more and more afraid of the future updates. I still haven't finished Apoc's first trial (have about 380 left), but maybe I can finish that up today.

[Logan Draconia]

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the fact that these magian weapons actually quite easily compare to relics now is a piss take in itself...the only thing apoc has for example is the WS now.. but when you have a scythe with similiar base.. spamming guillotine can close that "haste gap"

I'm sure Apocalypse will remain on top all the way to 99, but SE ultimately wanted there to be more options for players of different "dedication" levels.

Extremely dedicated? Get Apoc and upgrade it.
Mostly Dedicated? Get Vengeance, Maleficence or Redemption (which actually could start to rival Apoc in future expansions, unlike Liberator).
Just casual? Stick to your Tred and maybe take the extra time to get a Reckoning just so your DMG isn't left in the dust.

I guess they got tired of too many people asking for the gap to be closed between awesome and noob. But hey, if it means more fun for everyone then I dont care at all.

This post has been edited by Logan Draconia: 15 July 2010 - 04:08 AM

[Avarghaladion]

Logan Draconia, on 15 July 2010 - 04:07 AM, said:

I guess they got tired of too many people asking for the gap to be closed between awesome and noob. But hey, if it means more fun for everyone then I dont care at all.

Kinda a necropost but just starting relic trials and it is not fun. Its extremely boring and massively time consuming which is really retarded with FFXIV coming out. I really hope I get these done before then.