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This post has been edited by artaxerxes: 29 July 2010 - 11:02 PM
Ragnarok make me want to come back
#41
Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:01 PM
oh well, maybe i'll fuck with 14 or come back when everything's sorted out at 99. i dont want to get 3rd apoc nor not play a galka. so madwac give it up
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#42
Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:00 AM
You get the ban stick? If you are staring over, go with GKT or H2H both are being buffed a ton.
#43
Posted 30 July 2010 - 03:56 PM
I will just add that "IF" you only have 1 bard... you should be getting MarchX2 and that benefits both Scythe and GS. (mainly talking about a regular 6hit scythe vs a regular 6hit GS. Not apoc vs rag)
Scythe's Guillotine gets better and better the more "Attack" buffs you get. If you only have 1 bard in your PT(thus getting MarchX2), in other words, don't have BRDX2 for the Marchs and "minuets", or don't have BRD + COR for marches and "chaos roll", AND you're fighting higher level mobs... GS's spinning Slash will do consistently higher damage... due to being pre-attack buffed with the Cratio bonus and having an accuracy bonus on WS. Then if the mob that you're fighting is also very evasive, Guillotine will tend to miss more and the damage will be even more inconsistent. Guillotine doesn't only depend on attack... also depends on accuracy.
If you do use a GS, you need at least a Naglering so you can 6hit it... because anything less than a 6hit Naglering will disappoint very much when comparing it to a 6hit scythe. (due to the loss in WS frequency etc.)
Sure for most stuff/most mobs go with Scythe(Guillotine does even better the weaker the mob is too)... but GS still has it's place situationally... I think saying that GS is "completely useless" would be incorrect.
Scythe's Guillotine gets better and better the more "Attack" buffs you get. If you only have 1 bard in your PT(thus getting MarchX2), in other words, don't have BRDX2 for the Marchs and "minuets", or don't have BRD + COR for marches and "chaos roll", AND you're fighting higher level mobs... GS's spinning Slash will do consistently higher damage... due to being pre-attack buffed with the Cratio bonus and having an accuracy bonus on WS. Then if the mob that you're fighting is also very evasive, Guillotine will tend to miss more and the damage will be even more inconsistent. Guillotine doesn't only depend on attack... also depends on accuracy.
If you do use a GS, you need at least a Naglering so you can 6hit it... because anything less than a 6hit Naglering will disappoint very much when comparing it to a 6hit scythe. (due to the loss in WS frequency etc.)
Sure for most stuff/most mobs go with Scythe(Guillotine does even better the weaker the mob is too)... but GS still has it's place situationally... I think saying that GS is "completely useless" would be incorrect.
This post has been edited by Jazz: 30 July 2010 - 03:59 PM
#44
Posted 31 July 2010 - 10:22 PM
I didn't say great sword was useless, I said Ragnarok was useless. OAT GS is going to produce similar if not better results for the low, low price of nothing, and, given the choice between weapons, Apocalypse is still going to win by leaps and bounds if you have a bard. Attack isn't the only thing that Apocalypse benefits from more than Ragna-shit.
#45
Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:02 PM
Ahhh k.
For some reason I thought people were also saying that GS, in general, was completely useless. My bad...
I do agree with Apoc being the relic that a DRK should make... it really changes the way you play DRK. The haste and the HP drain is really nice etc.
And rather than spending a lot of time and money, you could just spend time and no money on a OAT GS for great results... if you really want a good GS anyway. This is a good point.
For some reason I thought people were also saying that GS, in general, was completely useless. My bad...
I do agree with Apoc being the relic that a DRK should make... it really changes the way you play DRK. The haste and the HP drain is really nice etc.
And rather than spending a lot of time and money, you could just spend time and no money on a OAT GS for great results... if you really want a good GS anyway. This is a good point.
#46
Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:29 AM
Taint, on 30 July 2010 - 09:00 AM, said:
You get the ban stick? If you are staring over, go with GKT or H2H both are being buffed a ton.
got bored and quit, sold the toon and bought a motorcycle. in hindsight i should have bought a jetski
#47
Posted 02 August 2010 - 01:16 PM
artaxerxes, on 02 August 2010 - 11:29 AM, said:
got bored and quit, sold the toon and bought a motorcycle. in hindsight i should have bought a jetski
I'd trade Taint for a Jetski in a flash! Not enough time in the day to keep all my jobs at elitest status.
#48
Posted 03 March 2011 - 10:45 PM
#50
Posted 05 March 2011 - 11:38 AM
Banter, on 04 March 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:
DRK/THF LOL
^
epeen is epeen
#51
Posted 10 March 2011 - 08:39 AM
like 4 ppl doing empyreans in my ls now..
tempted to fuck with their shit because dammit!
APOC SHOULD BE #1!
bring on the update
BRING IT ON
tempted to fuck with their shit because dammit!
APOC SHOULD BE #1!
bring on the update
BRING IT ON
#52
Posted 10 March 2011 - 10:45 AM
Goshtin, on 10 March 2011 - 08:39 AM, said:
like 4 ppl doing empyreans in my ls now..
tempted to fuck with their shit because dammit!
APOC SHOULD BE #1!
bring on the update
BRING IT ON
tempted to fuck with their shit because dammit!
APOC SHOULD BE #1!
bring on the update
BRING IT ON
/sigh This entire game is fucked up now. I rather play SSF IV with you.
#53
Posted 10 March 2011 - 01:41 PM
Chriscoffey, on 10 March 2011 - 10:45 AM, said:
/sigh This entire game is fucked up now. I rather play SSF IV with you.
Maybe I should just get ragnarok for the hell of it
#54
Posted 12 March 2011 - 03:30 PM
UNCTGTG, on 10 March 2011 - 01:41 PM, said:
Maybe I should just get Caladbolg for the hell of it
Ftfy
#55
Posted 13 March 2011 - 07:10 AM
Have to adapt to changing conditions. I'm starting on gsword after I finish up 85 ukon. I refuse to give up on drk! Even if my relic is basically useless...
#56
Posted 13 March 2011 - 11:22 AM
Chriscoffey, on 10 March 2011 - 10:45 AM, said:
/sigh This entire game is fucked up now. I rather play SSF IV with you.
we'll have more time to now
just get better!
#57
Posted 15 March 2011 - 02:22 AM
mandau is still a bro.
Scourge is the weirdest weapnskill, the Ragnarok is obviously geared for crits but...
MND/CHR40? awesome mods, keep in mind this gear was made around the same time they made AF2, for the most part, they had no idea what they were doing, and DRK's were clearly going to be using an Acc+10 MAB+10 body piece to keep up with those BLM nukes, and WAR swords at the same time.
Scourge is the weirdest weapnskill, the Ragnarok is obviously geared for crits but...
MND/CHR40? awesome mods, keep in mind this gear was made around the same time they made AF2, for the most part, they had no idea what they were doing, and DRK's were clearly going to be using an Acc+10 MAB+10 body piece to keep up with those BLM nukes, and WAR swords at the same time.
#58
Posted 08 June 2011 - 11:41 PM
Two things i want!
Job ability like sneak attack but for the front for drk...60 second timer ~ this would allow us to get full benifits of rr in aby.
Scourge after math to boost crit damage not crit %. ~ maybe around 20% damage +
Job ability like sneak attack but for the front for drk...60 second timer ~ this would allow us to get full benifits of rr in aby.
Scourge after math to boost crit damage not crit %. ~ maybe around 20% damage +
#59
Posted 09 June 2011 - 07:23 PM
voiddrk, on 08 June 2011 - 11:41 PM, said:
Two things i want!
Job ability like sneak attack but for the front for drk...60 second timer ~ this would allow us to get full benifits of rr in aby.
Scourge after math to boost crit damage not crit %. ~ maybe around 20% damage +
Job ability like sneak attack but for the front for drk...60 second timer ~ this would allow us to get full benifits of rr in aby.
Scourge after math to boost crit damage not crit %. ~ maybe around 20% damage +
Might as well throw in Store TP as long as you're stealing other jobs abilities.
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