[Taint]

The different between 80 and 90 percent is 100% increase in swing rate.

[firefeng]

I'm half-assedly guessing that the new COR roll is actually delay down a la Sword Strap, not Hasso.

If we got 3 minute LR, WARs would whine that zerk didn't grant 15~25% JA haste.

Edit: DRK forum should be renamed "Apoc Onry".

This post has been edited by firefeng: 28 August 2010 - 12:06 PM

[Logan Draconia]

I've been far too lazy to get apoc. I'm aiming for redemption so I hope it's as worth it.



Hold on. How did this topic go from EnDark to JA/Apoc talk? o.O

So yeah. EnDark. It's awesome.

This post has been edited by Logan Draconia: 28 August 2010 - 05:19 PM

[Nameless]

problme is the difference between 80% and 90% is twice the attack speed. They will never allow that given that they nerfed to begin with.

[Chriscoffey]

Nameless, on 28 August 2010 - 08:55 PM, said:

problme is the difference between 80% and 90% is twice the attack speed. They will never allow that given that they nerfed to begin with.

I'm just waiting to see what they do fuck all this guess work. I am just looking at it like most jobs will cap haste or be swinging so damn fast (I.E. War/nin @ 90 with ridill/OAT/Richardet's Axe or some combination since DW jumps to 25% or 30% with earring) what happens to this haste from catastrophe or it just stays the same.

Warrior will have 30% DW, 25% equip, and if this proves correct with blitzer buff be at 43.3% magic haste or be below it at 7% but gain the rest from blitzer rolls (JA) to make it capped. You are looking at like 1.6 seconds per round swinging up to 5-6 hits like a K club but with hella alot more damage FULL TIME. What fool can't see how broken that is? Blitzer rolls remains to be seen like me and logan discussed but IF it is anything like he's thinking just WOW.

The delay to most jobs, using their primary weapons skills, will be between 90-120 delay typically. I mean considering how many times those OAT weapons proc and other factors we all know that is just amazing to me. Blast me again if you want but just damn they opened the gates to carnage with this new equipment and JA stuff to other jobs without all the footwork Apocalypse required to get.

This post has been edited by Chriscoffey: 28 August 2010 - 11:00 PM

[rambus]

Chriscoffey, on 28 August 2010 - 09:37 AM, said:

How is that really any different than other jobs being at 80% Haste full time themselves USING their own primary weaponskills with sub par gear. I know its broken but so is that.

how are jobs at 80% haste? you mean fully buffed? soul voise?

anyways if it is like the other en spells, be cap at 300 dark magic for you guys, cap 20 damage then ya... pretty useless

DNC haste thing is a problem as well.
or, SCH can give people en spells? >.>.

This post has been edited by rambus: 29 August 2010 - 05:53 AM

[firefeng]

rambus, on 29 August 2010 - 05:52 AM, said:

how are jobs at 80% haste? you mean fully buffed? soul voise?

~26% gear haste + 35% magic haste + 10% Hasso JA haste + 5% DNC Haste Samba JA haste = 76%. Not quite 80%, but people are speaking in generalizations anyway.

[Chriscoffey]

firefeng, on 29 August 2010 - 07:11 AM, said:

~26% gear haste + 35% magic haste + 10% Hasso JA haste + 5% DNC Haste Samba JA haste = 76%. Not quite 80%, but people are speaking in generalizations anyway.

They are adding Blitzer rolls which may prove out to be JA or magic. This would cap the jobs that are needed more magic haste or the rest in JA haste dependant upon how its implemented. I am waiting to see on this particular thing but alot can get close even without this addition anyways.

This post has been edited by Chriscoffey: 29 August 2010 - 07:30 AM

[firefeng]

Clenched fists: Now with 1/10th the power of a photograph!

[Aleera]

firefeng, on 29 August 2010 - 07:11 AM, said:

~26% gear haste + 35% magic haste + 10% Hasso JA haste + 5% DNC Haste Samba JA haste = 76%. Not quite 80%, but people are speaking in generalizations anyway.

Fully merited haste samba gives 10%.

[Logan Draconia]

[Taint]

DNC is 10

[Banter]

Gear haste is only like 25.5 or something as well, but takes 26 in gear to reach that.

[Chriscoffey]

Banter, on 30 August 2010 - 02:06 AM, said:

Gear haste is only like 25.5 or something as well, but takes 26 in gear to reach that.

Close 25.6%

[Nikashi]

Logan Draconia, on 29 August 2010 - 11:07 AM, said:

QFT

In all seriousness, though... I think it's gonna be interesting to see how Endark plays out.

This post has been edited by Nikashi: 31 August 2010 - 06:52 PM