[Gredival]

Aeonknight, on 19 September 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:

You'll get plenty of those when you look to go for AF3+2

Hardly HNMs in the respect I've been arguing about them. Glavoid is still the hardest thing in Abyssea

[Banter]

Gredival, on 19 September 2010 - 02:55 PM, said:

Because I'm certain that his asserted correlation between success in games leads to failure in life is wrong, or because I'm willing to say more than a token one-liner when I post?

Because you feed the obvious troll.

[treelo]

I'll happily let you starve.

[Banter]

treelo, on 19 September 2010 - 10:12 PM, said:

I'll happily let you starve.

Thanks.

[Dankdragon]

I'm a nazi. Treelo, pet me. Lets destroy israel together!!

[treelo]

The only difference between Israel and my cat's litter box is size. They can keep it.

EDIT: Israel that is. My cat still needs somewhere to poop.

This post has been edited by treelo: 20 September 2010 - 03:25 PM

[Dankdragon]

Well, the whole world is israel's litterbox. So lets make sure they can't utilize it anymore.

[treelo]

America ≠ The world.

[Banter]

America is part of the world.

[pathwriter]

treelo, on 25 September 2010 - 10:35 PM, said:

America ≠ The world.

Watching BBC programming (and various other UK channels), I'm not sure you're correct. Seems like every bit of news is about what's going on here in the States.

[Avarghaladion]

Removed (accidentally replied to weeks old post thinking was today @_@)

This post has been edited by Avarghaladion: 26 September 2010 - 12:20 AM

[treelo]

pathwriter, on 25 September 2010 - 11:26 PM, said:

Watching BBC programming (and various other UK channels), I'm not sure you're correct. Seems like every bit of news is about what's going on here in the States.

Care to provide some examples? Because y'know, being English and having access to practically every UK channel available, I can tell you this is a bare-faced lie. Please, be dense enough to assume that BBC America and BBC World News America = the BBC as a whole.

[pathwriter]

Actually, I was watching UK programming on YouTube. I don't have cable, so even if I wanted to watch BBC America, I couldn't.

And, yes, I know it's a lie. However, I was watching The Big Fat Quiz of 2009, as a f'rinstance, and half the questions about newsworthy events of the past year were US-related. One of them had to do with what President Obama gave as a gift when visiting the UK (those gauche DVDs), but a lot of it left me thinking, "Surely there was something newsworthy going on in London in January 2009?" I remember during Obama's campaigns just how much the rest of the world was getting tied up in our electoral process, too. I know there's a reason for it (our shaky status as hegemon), but it seemed weird that people whose opinions were irrelevant were nonetheless being given media coverage. BBC.co.uk seems to be mercifully a lot more international, certainly moreso than our degenerated bullshit news stations.

[treelo]

You're obviously looking at the wrong stuff then. You hit the nail on the head with the reasons behind it though, most political satire, news, and mindless celebrity bullshit is split between UK and American topics though less so with the BBC. I listen to Five Live (news/sport radio station) almost exclusively, and while there is a daily airing of an ABC news broadcast (with a 15 minute discussion on events in America beforehand) at 2am, the majority is UK-related (though the late night shows deal with African, Chinese, Japanese, etc news as well.) BBC News 24 has sections dealing with most major nations at one time or another, and the World Service is genuinely a world service. It's actually quite well distributed between British, American, and world news; which isn't surprising given how the beeb has offices in almost every country. The same is true of other networks over here, though they tend to have less focus on international affairs.

From an entertainment perspective, it's certainly disproportionately an American affair, which isn't surprising really. ITV being the biggest culprit for mindlessly spamming mediocre American trash 24/7. Channel Five is in a similar situation with it's endless cycles of CSI: Whatever and other American cop shows. Most cable channels are flooded with American shows. The BBC has a select few, mostly Family Guy/American Dad but most is original work you won't find anywhere else (the same applies to BBC America, they air shows specific to America, and most major nations have their own BBC channel that does the same.)

I just found it highly amusing you chose the one day where every British news network was focused intently on the leadership contest in the Labour Party to make such a statement.

[pathwriter]

Ironic, and sad that I've heard nothing about it stateside. Then again, has Britain been paying attention to the back-and-forth of the two major camps of the Republican party and several of the primary upsets in small states? I imagine not, as anything below the head of state doesn't seem very newsworthy outside the nation in question.

I will say, though, that I actually get to hear about British news once in a while. I can't remember the last time I read about anything happening in Germany or Turkey or Thailand. News reporting in the US is disgustingly insular and only seems to perpetuate the stereotype that we think we're the center of the world (hence why I was a little alarmed by all the US-centric content I happened across).

[treelo]

I doubt Britain as a whole has a clue, and I've not had the radio on the past few days but I'm certain if it made the news in America I would have heard about it. We've generally had a much wider interest in international affairs, presumably a hangover from more imperialist times when we owned most the world. The BBC goes a long way to continuing this trend, and while your average Brit doesn't care, I'd assume that generally we're better informed than our American counterparts. The American presidential elections are always big news here, as are important events in Europe and on a slow day we might hear about less significant happenings around the EU.

I've always found the American view of the world in general to be similar in nature to that of say North Korea or Iran. Dictatorships tend to largely ignore the world lest the public find out things are better elsewhere, and while this might not be completely true in the US, the effect is roughly the same. Being a relatively new country in the grand scheme of things, you've missed many of the events (WW1/2 aside obviously) that formed the bonds of hatred and kinship between other more established nations. That's certainly the impression I've been getting.

[pathwriter]

I think that a large part of how Americans view the world (or are made to view the world, it's a little hard to parse) is simply a function of having two rather boring border countries and a huge nation. Remember that we are the second largest nation on the planet behind China and our landmass is greater than the whole of Europe. There's so much news going on in our nation, which you may recall is a federation of semi-autonomous states, and we're so far away from Europe and Asia, that a lot of the more minor news from around the world filters in poorly. We still hear about a lot of things, but I know that we rarely get news about, say, the latest elections in Germany. Which is odd, given how big a player Germany is in the global economy.