[Varizen]

Besides the plethora of job-related adjustments and additions already announced, the upcoming version update will usher in a broad spectrum of other refinements. Players can look forward to improvements in areas such as search comments, Walk of Echoes, Abyssea, and the quest Inside the Belly.

read on for the details.

[Varizen]

Besides the plethora of job-related adjustments and additions already announced, the upcoming version update will usher in a broad spectrum of other refinements. Players can look forward to improvements in areas such as search comments, Walk of Echoes, Abyssea, and the quest Inside the Belly.

Search Comment



Trial of the Magians will be added as a new search comment category, allowing Magian trial parties to be formed with greater ease.

Walk of Echoes



Considerable changes will be applied to the Walk of Echoes, making it more accessible and rewarding than before.
- The time limit for battlefields will be extended, and monster behavior adjusted.
- The method of performance evaluation will be revised.
- The conditions for receiving the right to cast lots on victory spoils will be alleviated.

Inside the Belly



The variety of fishes applicable to the Inside the Belly quest will be expanded, allowing for new items to be obtained.

Abyssea



Abyssean monsters will yield greater amounts of cruor, a phenomenon theorized by scientists as a potential side effect of the perpetually crimson sky. Adventurers will also be given the option to place items obtained from pyxides into the pool of lot spoils.

The new NPC "Horst" will be posted in Port Jeuno. Adventurers may request Horst to instantaneously teleport them to any Cavernous Maw leading to an Abyssea area they have previously visited.

*"Vision of Abyssea" and "Scars of Abyssea" require the "Rise of the Zilart" and "Wings of the Goddess" expansions to be installed and registered.
*The game data for "Scars of Abyssea" will be distributed via the FINAL FANTASY XI version update scheduled for Thursday, September 8, 2010.

Besides the above, many more additions and refinements are in the works. All the juicy details can be perused upon the release of the September version update!

[pathwriter]

Did we need a new Search tab for Magian trials? The Quest tab has been working just fine here on Alexander, given no one uses any of the search options beyond XP, Sales, and very rarely Missions.

Glad to see it only took them three months to realize that Walk of Echoes had been stillborn. Let's see if they've adjusted it so that people will actually bother going.

And I really hope I have something to do with this Cruor. I haven't joined an Abyssea XP alliance in weeks and I've got a quarter-million of the stuff just sitting around. I wouldn't be shocked if there are players right now who could buy a Primeval Brew, maybe two.

[Shadax]

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Thursday, September 8, 2010

They said in the Scars update it was gonna be on Wednesday...wtf?

The teleport NPC is cool, but i wish they had one in each nation as well since I almost always get my stones well in advance of a run.

[Cahlum!]

Still waiting for them to give us a way to reobtain ToAU Rings >.> why cant they just do that instead of updating stuff thats not needed

This post has been edited by Cahlum!: 07 September 2010 - 05:25 AM

[MrReinhardt]

I love the Walk of Echoes changes.

[Terranova]

"Thursday, September 8th" is a typo. September 8th is Wednesday.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the

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many more additions and refinements

are referring to everything already listed before, and not anything else new. Then again, SE does seem to be winging this update to an extent.

Horst is going to save soooooo much time omfg. You'd think it wouldn't be that much of a challenge organizing seventeen other people to get one teleport, but nooo...

[Varizen]

pathwriter, on 07 September 2010 - 04:27 AM, said:

Did we need a new Search tab for Magian trials? The Quest tab has been working just fine here on Alexander, given no one uses any of the search options beyond XP, Sales, and very rarely Missions.

Glad to see it only took them three months to realize that Walk of Echoes had been stillborn. Let's see if they've adjusted it so that people will actually bother going.

And I really hope I have something to do with this Cruor. I haven't joined an Abyssea XP alliance in weeks and I've got a quarter-million of the stuff just sitting around. I wouldn't be shocked if there are players right now who could buy a Primeval Brew, maybe two.

I never say no to more search options. Just allows for more ways to use seacoms as stuff to organize event lots.

[1]

its a bit of a typo/mis translation of time:

at 9:00 am PST Wednesday 9-08-2010 happens to also be 0:00 JPN Thursday 9-09-2010.

It's basically the translators confusing information designated for NA/EU players and Japanese players.

[Deo2]

I won't say no to new search commentary either but... how about translator keywords like the type of monster you require, "Finishing Blow" "Final Attack" or "Kill Shot", and weather phenomenon (or just the word "Weather" for that matter).

I'm not really sure the sch spells translate the same meaning, and it's weird trying to describe a goobbue with 'plantoid killer' 'gigas'.

Reasonable requests aside, here's a more... wishful demand:

Charged weather inducing item. Definitely bad luck, but every time I've spoken with a weather reporter, all I get is 3 days of sunshine or sunny with a chance of thunder followed by sunshine the next day.

[pathwriter]

You know that you can just write "Goobbue" and Japanese players will understand it, right? All names in FFXI, both player and mob, are in Roman characters. What we see as Elder Goobbue, they see as Elder Goobue.

[Deo2]

Maybe so, but I do not expect every jp player to identify english character patterns unless they're in the same area and looking at the same monsters. To them, I'd expect it to just look like gibberish as much as JP search comment looks to my ignorant and uneducated eyes.

Walk of Echos improvements: if there was a way to kill monsters without their friends swarming to where it died. That would make things so much easier. Oh, and move the Ampitheatre, the last tiger-burn blm party I had there aggroed him 3 times. First time, "huh, that's odd." Second time, "that's it, we're outta here." Third, he was eating the people that were like, "we can salvage this, let's get replaceme-AAAAUUUGGHH!!!!"

Abyssea: Teleport in Jeuno is fine. Can we please have the surveyor give us how much time we have remaining? Even better, would be an item we can check at any time.

[pathwriter]

Let me just assure you: you're wrong. Does the word "coeurl" have any meaning to you as a speaker of English? It shouldn't. It was a random space monster invented by a short story writer in the mid-20th century that managed to find its way into the D&D monster manual and, because Squaresoft is shameless about stealing from D&D, eventually into the Final Fantasy franchise. You probably think of it as "cheetah" or "cat" in your head, but you know what the letters "coeurl" imply because you've seen it floating over enough mobs with that name. If you needed to kill some and went to Onzozo, perhaps you'd write "Torama" in your search comment, which would get the exact same message across.

Realize that Japanese people are very familiar with Roman letters. They have no real choice in the matter because Roman letters are everywhere in Japan, sometimes in English, sometimes in Japanese, sometimes in yet other languages. While working on my Hand-to-Hand trials, I'd write in my seacom <Hand-to-Hand>#70 "Orctrap"x3 <Team up?> and there was never a moment's confusion.


Oh, and regarding Horst teleporting us to crags from Jeuno... can I please have an easier way to get there? It's very convenient for me to have my Home Point in San d'Oria as that allows me to get to the Outpost warp service or the East Ronfaure crag rapidly. Paying 300 gil to get to Whitegate, then grabbing an Imperial Silver Piece, then zoning from Ru'Lude to my Mog House to Port Jeuno is just... really tedious. Maybe I've been pampered by the huge expansion in rapid transit since Treasures of Aht Urhgan was released (staging points, then the warps from cities to Whitegate, then the Campaign teleports, and now the Confluxes in Abyssea), but if that's going to be the norm, save me a few steps and my diminishing supply of Imperial Standing, please.

[Varizen]

Just to further your point, Ono, in Japanese schools, they learn 4 alphabets. First is Hiragana, which is 40 characters, and designates native Japanese words. Second is Katakana which designates non-native Japanese words (like Elevator [e-ri-be-ta] and television [te-re-bi]) Katakana is also 40 characters long. From their earliest days until they graduate high school, and even into college, the learn Kanji, which is over 10,000 character long, and translates to "Chinese Character." Kanji is used in conjunction with katakana and hiragana in order to do shorthands or designate homonyms. Since it's common in language to reuse a lot of sounds (there, they're and their as prime examples.) and since Japanese can't really do multiple spellings, they use the kanji to determine which word is intended. And, as there are over 10,000 kanji, the pronunciation of the kanji characters is almost always written above in Hiragana. The fourth alphabet they learn is Romanji, or roman characters. The Roman characters are shockingly common. Sometimes writing in roman character works better, because Japanese is very vowel based. Every consonant is paired with a vowel. The Japanese alphabet is [a i u e o ka ki ku ke ko ga gi gu ge go sa shi su se so za ji zu ze zo...] which as you can imagine gets you to 40 pretty fast, but you're missing a lot of sounds. So in order to add in a lot of new sounds, they adopted the roman letters. It's the only way to convey ch, some f's, some j's, L's, q's, v's, some w's, and some y's.

Also, amusingly, if you try to have someone write your name it Japanese, it's always got additional sounds. Like in Japanese class, my friend Scott was Su-ko-to.


Anyway. Yeah, if you write Goblin Reaper, they'll know what you're talking about. There's a reason why they added an entire alphabet to designate foreign words about 400 years ago. It's because they adopt words from other cultures, and recognize things from other cultures. Another bit of trivia, some of the earliest words in Katakana originate in Spanish. Which is why the Japanese word for bread is Pan. (I think.)

[Aleera]

pathwriter, on 07 September 2010 - 11:53 PM, said:

Oh, and regarding Horst teleporting us to crags from Jeuno... can I please have an easier way to get there? It's very convenient for me to have my Home Point in San d'Oria as that allows me to get to the Outpost warp service or the East Ronfaure crag rapidly. Paying 300 gil to get to Whitegate, then grabbing an Imperial Silver Piece, then zoning from Ru'Lude to my Mog House to Port Jeuno is just... really tedious. Maybe I've been pampered by the huge expansion in rapid transit since Treasures of Aht Urhgan was released (staging points, then the warps from cities to Whitegate, then the Campaign teleports, and now the Confluxes in Abyssea), but if that's going to be the norm, save me a few steps and my diminishing supply of Imperial Standing, please.

This I would like. I've temporarily set my HP to Upper Jeuno so I could either spend 300 gil to warp to WG if needed or walk outside and use the FoV book to warp to Windurst, but that can be a bit much, too. And seeing as I haven't exp'd in an AU zone in forever, my chances of getting Imperial Standing back has diminished, yet I FoV frequently enough to keep up on tabs for warps. But even lately I haven't been accruing many tabs and I'm down to about 1,900ish and they'll be depleted soon. I would love a direct warp from Windurst or any nation to Jeuno as well. It would be a huge time and IS/tab saver in the long run.

[pathwriter]

Varizen, on 08 September 2010 - 01:01 AM, said:

Another bit of trivia, some of the earliest words in Katakana originate in Spanish. Which is why the Japanese word for bread is Pan. (I think.)

I thought some of the earliest European words in Japan were Portuguese? Maybe I'm mixing up my history of India, China, and Japan. Either way, "pan" is the Latin cognate for "bread," yes, so it shows up in every Romance language.

[Aleera]

Surprised a mod/fiend hasn't posted this yet:

http://www.playonlin...835/detail.html

Update notes are up. 8 pages of awesome.

Edit: Few points that particularly got me excited:

- The Trial Log summoned forth by the Magian Specs item now offers a two-day (Vana'diel time) weather forecast for your area.

- The objectives of certain trials, including monster types, weather/weekday conditions and finishing blows have been adjusted. These adjustments are applicable to trials in progress.

- Your remaining Visitant duration will now be shown in the message window when resting.

- Remaining Visitant time will no longer be lost upon exiting Abyssea without receiving Visitant status.

- You may now obtain multiple "forbidden keys" in one transaction from the Cruor Prospector NPC.

- The stackable quantity of the "Forbidden Key" item has been increased from 12 to 99.

Also always curious what the new BST jug pets will be.

Curdled Plasma Broth / Goblin Bug Broth / Bubbling Carrion Broth / Chirping Grasshopper Broth

Wanna say one is gonna be a clot/jelly type.. one a bird...one a damselfly with the same colors as the ones in mount z (would be cool) and maybe one a peiste?

This post has been edited by Aleera: 08 September 2010 - 10:46 AM

[Corrderio]

Varizen, on 08 September 2010 - 01:01 AM, said:

Just to further your point, Ono, in Japanese schools, they learn 4 alphabets. First is Hiragana, which is 40 characters, and designates native Japanese words. Second is Katakana which designates non-native Japanese words (like Elevator [e-ri-be-ta] and television [te-re-bi]) Katakana is also 40 characters long. From their earliest days until they graduate high school, and even into college, the learn Kanji, which is over 10,000 character long, and translates to "Chinese Character." Kanji is used in conjunction with katakana and hiragana in order to do shorthands or designate homonyms. Since it's common in language to reuse a lot of sounds (there, they're and their as prime examples.) and since Japanese can't really do multiple spellings, they use the kanji to determine which word is intended. And, as there are over 10,000 kanji, the pronunciation of the kanji characters is almost always written above in Hiragana. The fourth alphabet they learn is Romanji, or roman characters. The Roman characters are shockingly common. Sometimes writing in roman character works better, because Japanese is very vowel based. Every consonant is paired with a vowel. The Japanese alphabet is [a i u e o ka ki ku ke ko ga gi gu ge go sa shi su se so za ji zu ze zo...] which as you can imagine gets you to 40 pretty fast, but you're missing a lot of sounds. So in order to add in a lot of new sounds, they adopted the roman letters. It's the only way to convey ch, some f's, some j's, L's, q's, v's, some w's, and some y's.

Also, amusingly, if you try to have someone write your name it Japanese, it's always got additional sounds. Like in Japanese class, my friend Scott was Su-ko-to.


Anyway. Yeah, if you write Goblin Reaper, they'll know what you're talking about. There's a reason why they added an entire alphabet to designate foreign words about 400 years ago. It's because they adopt words from other cultures, and recognize things from other cultures. Another bit of trivia, some of the earliest words in Katakana originate in Spanish. Which is why the Japanese word for bread is Pan. (I think.)

I don't know if I want to study Japanese or not after reading this xD

[Varizen]

pathwriter, on 08 September 2010 - 09:33 AM, said:

I thought some of the earliest European words in Japan were Portuguese? Maybe I'm mixing up my history of India, China, and Japan. Either way, "pan" is the Latin cognate for "bread," yes, so it shows up in every Romance language.

You know what? You're right. It is Portuguese. I was going off memory, and Spanish and Portuguese are so easy to confuse.