[Auraeon]

Heofon Knuckles
[Main] All Races
DMG:+30 Delay:+86 Latent effect: "Final Heaven"
LV 85 MNK PUP


PUP gets Final Heaven now, I guess? Double Light chains could be interesting with Tactical Switch, and SAM sub stuff. Kind of surprised they let PUP have Final Heaven though.

[Vangoh32]

Any idea on how you get these????????????

[PaladinAlik]

my guess would be magian? /shrug curious what the latent trigger is?

[Banter]

You guys obviously don't know how much final heaven sucks.

[Kaparu]

Banter, on 13 September 2010 - 01:45 AM, said:

You guys obviously don't know how much puppetmaster sucks.

Clearly.

[Banter]

Kaparu, on 13 September 2010 - 05:44 AM, said:

Clearly.

Thanks for the assist.

[PaladinAlik]

well i know the ws sucks in general but its just a fun toy to have

[Banter]

PaladinAlik, on 13 September 2010 - 02:39 PM, said:

well i know the ws sucks in general but its just a fun toy to have

It's just another useless WS.

[Auraeon]

Banter, on 13 September 2010 - 03:26 PM, said:

It's just another useless WS.

Lets PUP make two-WS Light by itself and double Light. When the puppet learns Thunder V it will be easy to solo SC Light and MB with the help of Final Heaven. That is assuming they don't come out with level 90+ WS that double skillchains or at least a hand-to-hand WS of Fusion properties for PUP, which would really make Final Heaven obsolete.

This post has been edited by Auraeon: 14 September 2010 - 02:19 PM

[Banter]

Auraeon, on 14 September 2010 - 02:14 PM, said:

Lets PUP make two-WS Light by itself and double Light. When the puppet learns Thunder V it will be easy to solo SC Light and MB with the help of Final Heaven. That is assuming they don't come out with level 90+ WS that double skillchains or at least a hand-to-hand WS of Fusion properties for PUP, which would really make Final Heaven obsolete.

You're saying this like you couldn't get far better damage out of just using Stringing Pummel or Howling Fist a few times and nuking with Thunder V.

[Vangoh32]

Banter, on 14 September 2010 - 02:28 PM, said:

You're saying this like you couldn't get far better damage out of just using Stringing Pummel or Howling Fist a few times and nuking with Thunder V.

Geez we're sorry for wanting a shinny WS daaaaaaaaaayuuummmm!

[pathwriter]

They're suggesting that you actually spend your time caring about relevant things rather than shiny toys.

Now, when they release a weapon that'll let Monk use Stringing Pummel, then we'll have some opportunity to talk about the usefulness of a WS weapon.

[Appie]

Banter, on 13 September 2010 - 03:26 PM, said:

It's just another useless WS.

I think of it as a Howling Fist with better skillchain properties. So where Howling is useful, Final Heaven is better.

[Banter]

Appie, on 15 September 2010 - 11:27 AM, said:

I think of it as a Howling Fist with better skillchain properties. So where Howling is useful, Final Heaven is better.

Final Heaven has an attack bonus to it? News to me, and would be apparently the first relic weapon with it.

[Appie]

Since when do I need an attack bonus to get equal damage between 2 WS?

Maybe it's FH's higher dmg multiplier of 3.0 versus 2.5 of Howling. Don't know, don't care, both WS provide equal numbers ingame, so I use the one that makes light or double light.

This post has been edited by Appie: 15 September 2010 - 04:28 PM

[Banter]

Appie, on 15 September 2010 - 04:17 PM, said:

Since when do I need an attack bonus to get equal damage between 2 WS?

Maybe it's FH's higher dmg multiplier of 3.0 versus 2.5 of Howling. Don't know, don't care, both WS provide equal numbers ingame, so I use the one that makes light or double light.

The only reason to use Howling Fist is for the attack bonus, otherwise Asuran is better.

[Cream Soda]

Honestly, I use ascetic's fury when I'm not using asuran. It's done better for me than Howling. As for the wep, if it's anything like the gax, you have to do 13 ws before you get a final heaven, so no double light tactical switch for you

[Auraeon]

Cream Soda, on 15 September 2010 - 09:47 PM, said:

Honestly, I use ascetic's fury when I'm not using asuran. It's done better for me than Howling. As for the wep, if it's anything like the gax, you have to do 13 ws before you get a final heaven, so no double light tactical switch for you

Wow. If that is really how it works, that is garbage. Can't even cheat and offhand a multi-hit weapon with either G.axe or H2H.

[Cream Soda]

Welll even if you can't cheat and offhand, these weps are some of the highest DMG weps available.

[Appie]

Banter, on 15 September 2010 - 09:26 PM, said:

The only reason to use Howling Fist is for the attack bonus, otherwise Asuran is better.

The only reason I ever switch from Asurans to any other MNK WS is for when I'm fighting some high lvl THF mob. Asurans basically always does better, so that isn't part of the discussion. There simply is hardly any diff in DMG between Howling and FH, why the fuck would I use Howling then, for the not helping attack bonus? lol