[Javon]

OK i know alot of threads been posted but im gonna ask again anyway wanna know whats best trail GK to use besides Masamune
im still currently using Hagun atm. So if any serious sam have an answer plz let me know.
idk if i should retire Hagun cause of the TP bonus on it just any info will help

[nervosa]

Depending how Fudo is.




Easier to get a 5hit then the 10% dmg one.


To get a 5hit build with 464 delay, you'll need at least +64 StoreTP total. (If you have mac storeTP merits thats only +29STP in gear.) With all the AF3, a 5hit shouldn't be to hard to get on 464.

[IronPandemonium]

Kind of hard to get an efficient five-hit with the WSDMG variant, but that + sword strap = Hagun +3 basically.

I'd recommend that one for simplicity; gear it just like a 450 delay katana.

[foxtrot]

What do you guys think about the double attack+5/7 gk?

It is a little bit of a pain to get (still on gnats personally) but I think it could have some potential. With the +5 gk & brutal earring it'd be nice in the sense that it would be same double attack rate as /war - it might be fun as /drg? I don't know.

Not going to turn this into a rice ball thread but there is a lot of plausible +double attack gear out there (though I've heard double attack has diminishing returns?) not to mention atma with double attack as well. With the high base dmg on the gk and +double attack it could be fun/worth while.

brutal 5%, gk 5/7%, pole grip 2%, lolaskar 2% or juogi if got the gil 4%, /war 10%, eve's atma 10% - just to name some off the top of my head

[BanetheBrawler]

WOMG RICE BALL ROSHI JINPACHI AF HANDS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Also, I'm taking the 10% WS dmg path. As far as I know, they're still going to be adding tiers, and since almost all of our damage comes from WS, I think it makes the most sense to upgrade that. Who knows, maybe the WSdmg will get a bunch of Strength, or lowered delay?

[Banter]

BanetheBrawler, on 19 September 2010 - 12:34 AM, said:

WOMG RICE BALL ROSHI JINPACHI AF HANDS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Also, I'm taking the 10% WS dmg path. As far as I know, they're still going to be adding tiers, and since almost all of our damage comes from WS, I think it makes the most sense to upgrade that. Who knows, maybe the WSdmg will get a bunch of Strength, or lowered delay?

Making a 5 hit with the STP GKT is a much better option than the WS dmg one.

[Prothescar]

Why do a 5-hit with the STP GKT when you can almost as easily make a 5-hit with the WSDMG GKT?

[Cyprias]

Why not do both since they're actually not that hard to do?

[Banter]

Prothescar, on 19 September 2010 - 01:21 AM, said:

almost as easily

That's pretty relative, but yea, 5 hit with WS dmg GKT is probably your best bet if you can swing it.

[Prothescar]

Cyprias, on 19 September 2010 - 03:07 AM, said:

Why not do both since they're actually not that hard to do?

You can't make two keitonotachis.

[Cyprias]

That's beyond stupid then. :/

[Taint]

Keitonotachis STP or Ishikirimaru? (480delay 100damage)

[Banter]

Most likely the Keito 5 hit due to WS frequency.

[Taint]

Banter, on 01 October 2010 - 08:44 AM, said:

Most likely the Keito 5 hit due to WS frequency.

Both should 5hit easily. So its 16delay vs 5 damage.

[Banter]

5 damage isn't that much even on the melee swings, but taking Gekko into account, should make Keito come slightly ahead (fstr dependent i'd imagine). That said, differences will be minimal, so either A. get what's easiest for now until the next set of magians comes out or B. Upgrade Ishi because it's most likely to get some large buffs by the time it's finished.

[Taint]

I decided to cancel my STP trial and focus on the WSdamage trial. With future updates it should be quite potent.