[thegoldenage]

http://forums.nvidia...howtopic=166243

this is a warning to those thinking about upgrading video cards for any reason.

id like for everyone to chime in on this thread and give their opinions about this major issue. hopefully it can get nvidia to get off their ass and do something productive. basically ffxi can not run on any of the geforce 400 series cards. abysmal frame rates with only just a few models on screen. the issue was first brought up in april with many promises of fixes being confirmed and on the way with all of those promises being broken again and again. aside from the few lucky people that have had an increase in performance with the latest beta drivers, albeit only slightly in many cases, the issue has gone unresolved.

if anyone has any ties to any review sites that can get this story and uncover others like it to be fed to the general pubplic, it would be much appreciated.

[Murdy]

thegoldenage, on 20 September 2010 - 07:46 PM, said:

http://forums.nvidia...howtopic=166243

this is a warning to those thinking about upgrading video cards for any reason.

id like for everyone to chime in on this thread and give their opinions about this major issue. hopefully it can get nvidia to get off their ass and do something productive. basically ffxi can not run on any of the geforce 400 series cards. abysmal frame rates with only just a few models on screen. the issue was first brought up in april with many promises of fixes being confirmed and on the way with all of those promises being broken again and again. aside from the few lucky people that have had an increase in performance with the latest beta drivers, albeit only slightly in many cases, the issue has gone unresolved.

if anyone has any ties to any review sites that can get this story and uncover others like it to be fed to the general pubplic, it would be much appreciated.

Hello,
your info is kinda old and expirated, since NVIDIA released beta 260.63 drivers last week (14.9.2010), FFXI became at least "playable", frame rate in very high populated areas (Besieged, Campaign Battles) are around 15-20 fps, on my GTX460 768MB, so game is really playable now. You should try to find something about it, before u post something like this, you just mystificates other users.

So, for all 4xx Graphic card users, use beta drivers 260.63 (it also boosts up FFXIV benchmark score up to 10%), FFXI is at least playable on this driver version.
NVIDIA beta drivers 260.63 - International - W7 and Vista - 64-bit
NVIDIA beta drivers 260.63 - International - W7 and Vista - 32-bit

Install those beta drivers over your old ones (you don't need to uninstall previous version), and try how it works.

[thegoldenage]

Murdy, on 21 September 2010 - 01:04 AM, said:

Hello,
your info is kinda old and expirated, since NVIDIA released beta 260.63 drivers last week (14.9.2010), FFXI became at least "playable", frame rate in very high populated areas (Besieged, Campaign Battles) are around 15-20 fps, on my GTX460 768MB, so game is really playable now. You should try to find something about it, before u post something like this, you just mystificates other users.

So, for all 4xx Graphic card users, use beta drivers 260.63 (it also boosts up FFXIV benchmark score up to 10%), FFXI is at least playable on this driver version.
NVIDIA beta drivers 260.63 - International - W7 and Vista - 64-bit
NVIDIA beta drivers 260.63 - International - W7 and Vista - 32-bit

Install those beta drivers over your old ones (you don't need to uninstall previous version), and try how it works.

you didnt read the last few pages of the thread. most people did NOT see any improvement with those drivers. check out the pic of 0.9 fps @ wg ah. thats with the new drivers.

This post has been edited by thegoldenage: 21 September 2010 - 11:56 AM

[Chocoburger]

I just recently bought a GTX470 and it works perfectly on my new PC with FFX11. I got a 5347 score on FF14 benchmark with it as well. I do have the latest drivers.

Late edit: I should have noted that it was with Windows XP 32-bit. I will be installing XI soon on my new PC running Windows 7 64-bit, this may be a cause of the problem perhaps? A combination of Windows 7 and 64-bit OS with the GTX400 series? I'll find out soon enough and post/edit again.

This post has been edited by Chocoburger: 23 September 2010 - 12:50 AM

[thegoldenage]

Chocoburger, on 22 September 2010 - 08:30 PM, said:

I just recently bought a GTX470 and it works perfectly on my new PC with FFX11. I got a 5347 score on FF14 benchmark with it as well. I do have the latest drivers.

Late edit: I should have noted that it was with Windows XP 32-bit. I will be installing XI soon on my new PC running Windows 7 64-bit, this may be a cause of the problem perhaps? A combination of Windows 7 and 64-bit OS with the GTX400 series? I'll find out soon enough and post/edit again.

i too am using windows xp 32 bit and a 470. are you using windower? whats your screen res while playing? whats your config for ffxi and nvidia control panel? also one thing i noted in the nvidia thread is that i dont have a power management option in the nv control panel. there were a couple suggestions to change that to performance and it seemed to help some people. find it hard to believe that two people with the same setups are getting completely different results.

[Chocoburger]

No I don't use windower, except for the official one from S-E. Screen res should be 1280 x 1024 which is my monitor's native res. I have FFXI running at all the highest possibly graphical settings, I pretty much left nvidia graphical options on default. Gigabyte is the manufacturer of my GTX470. This is the card I got.

Some more supplemental info:
I was using my brand new GTX470 on my OLD PC set up (meaning old motherboard/ram/CPU from 2006) and it ran perfectly even with tons of characters on screen, the framerate stayed at 27~30 (my personal guess since I don't use windower to see actual framerate---but it was very smooth). I didn't do anything special or edit any files of any sort.

I will be installing FFXI today on my NEW PC (meaning new motherboard/ram/CPU from 2010 and with GTX470 on Windows 7 64-bit) and I'll tell you what's up. Odd how you're experiencing trouble though, I'd be upset if my new card couldn't run a PS2 port as well.

Edit: Well after 4 hours of actually trying to get FFXI work on Windows 7, I was finally able to download the patches and updates which took another 4 hours or so, odd how the downloading took like 3.5 hours but the actual installation of 25,000 or so files took roughly 8-10 seconds (yes seriously!).

Anyway, Windows 7 64-bit with GTX470 works very well, noticeable frame drops when theres 25-30 character's on screen, but that's only to be expected, seems to run the same as Windows XP with GTX 470.

I have NOT touched any Nvidia graphical options and my driver version is 258.96.

This post has been edited by Chocoburger: 24 September 2010 - 12:04 AM

[thegoldenage]

wtf how?

[Chocoburger]

Think maybe it's an issue outside of just GTX470? Could it be a RAM/CPU/OS issue (meaning the GTX470 combined with one of those aspects is causing problems that an older graphics card didn't have)? I don't know... I'm not a PC wiz really but I was looking through that thread and I was really baffled as to how all these people were having issues and I wasn't.

I'm not sure what to tell you and I'm afraid if I post in that thread saying my GTX470 works perfectly with FFXI, I'll get eaten alive or be called a liar so I'm not going to bother.