[kuvo]

Who gives a shit. If i were one of this guys friends I would be even more pissed at him for giving me an essay to read after he died. I hated english class and essays and now I would hate my friend. In my eyes this is natural selection at it's finest. Get rid of the crazies, weak, and stupid people of the world and leave room for the rest of us to camp NMs. Maybe now I'll get my peacock charm lol

[Kenshiro]

wunder3, on 30 September 2010 - 08:34 AM, said:

Nihilism is a concept many never seem to understand properly, but it ultimately contradicts itself. I spent most of my sleepless night reading this lol. It's the best thing I've read in a while. It took me back to my under-grad philosophy 101 class. After learning about people like Descartes, my life never been the same lmao! But uhh... philosophy can either destroy or open a creative port for over-active thinkers (i.e. the matrix guys).

Descartes was a fucking idiot. Some of his work is worth reading, but Jesus he always starts on a solid foundation and then goes on to say a bunch of horse shit.

[Vigilous]

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philosophy can either destroy or open a creative port for over-active thinkers (i.e. the matrix guys).

Yes, re-using a decades-old sci-fi plot is deep philosophy.

[Claire_Pendragon]

wunder3, on 30 September 2010 - 08:34 AM, said:

Nihilism is a concept many never seem to understand properly, but it ultimately contradicts itself. I spent most of my sleepless night reading this lol. It's the best thing I've read in a while. It took me back to my under-grad philosophy 101 class. After learning about people like Descartes, my life never been the same lmao! But uhh... philosophy can either destroy or open a creative port for over-active thinkers (i.e. the matrix guys).

Actually Nihilism itself isn't the cause of the contradiction, but the words in the human language, and being forced to use THEM to describe Nihilism.
No words can accurately be given a definition that is perfect, and w/o a contradiction/flaw.
Eventually it's own opposite (used to define it many times) is found in itself in SOME way.

AKA we want to call Nihilism BS, because we want to, not because of actual facts about it. (Grasping at straws)

Now i can at least agree with the early beginnings to nihilism are a load of crock, but based on its current form, and never straying (many ppl stray to make their own version of it, such as early versions of it tried to convince you to either stop caring about things, or to think you should give up living.) from its non perversed concept, it's not really saying anything at all, and just things are the way they are.

Having 'No meaning" or "No point" doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean take action, or avoid taking action. It's not right, and it's not wrong.

When I tell someoen I'm not happy, and I'm not unhappy, doesn't mean I'm sad. I'm perfectly neutral. Which is fine.

[Kenshiro]

The problem with that is that it stops you dead in your tracks, and your growth both philosophically and as a person just hit a wall. Existentialism is the obvious progression from Nihilism, as it answers the inevitable "Now what?" any thinking person who ever agreed with Nihilism will feel.

This post has been edited by Kenshiro: 30 September 2010 - 11:39 AM

[Claire_Pendragon]

edit: nvm
I came to the conclusion of Nihilism w/o being told about it, or taking any classes in philosophy, or reading any books etc.
And honestly, I can't argue I don't use Existentialism to some degree, but not because I thought, 'what next'
instead i said, that's the beauty of it, there doesn't have to be a 'whats next'.

This post has been edited by Claire_Pendragon: 30 September 2010 - 01:53 PM

[Kenshiro]

Claire_Pendragon, on 30 September 2010 - 01:45 PM, said:

edit: nvm
I came to the conclusion of Nihilism w/o being told about it, or taking any classes in philosophy, or reading any books etc.
And honestly, I can't argue I don't use Existentialism to some degree, but not because I thought, 'what next'
instead i said, that's the beauty of it, there doesn't have to be a 'whats next'.

Yeah there does. Unfortunately animals such as you and I perceive time linearly. There is always a next.

[firefeng]

Vigilous, on 30 September 2010 - 08:50 AM, said:

Yes, re-using a millennia-old metaphysical plot is deep philosophy.

Fix'd. They just added robots to the Bible and Plato's cave analogy.

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Yeah there does. Unfortunately animals such as you and I perceive time linearly. There is always a next.

Which is why nihilism will always breed more despair than adversity.

This post has been edited by firefeng: 01 October 2010 - 05:07 AM