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View PostKnyte, on 07 October 2010 - 01:33 PM, said:

I always thought of gravity as an effect of matter size and density, not a force. If gravity was a force, then it would be present in all areas of physics. Yet, if memory serves, Quantum mechanics is predominanly dominated by the forces of Electromagnetism, and the Strong and Weak Nuclear Forces. But..um...using your analogy about a bowling ball and a rubber mat substituting for a mass object and space-time, respectively, isn't that an answer to "why does matter bend space-time"?

No. Knowing that the rubber mat contorts per the mass of the bowling ball is not the same as understanding the intrinsic properties of the mat that allow it to stretch in such a manner, though it is a hint. Gravity is also present in all areas of physics sans those dealing with spacetime on distances smaller than the Planck length, at which point we are not even sure that existence "exists" anymore.

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Matter bends space-time because its density is greater, and surface area is smaller, then space-time itself. This relation corresponds on all 3 dimensions that we know of: X, Y, Z. Time is our 4th dimension, yet it is situated somewhat outside the X, Y, Z coordinates. Kind of like encasing it in a bubble. If you were to walk outside the bubble, you would see a continuous line..almost like a gigantic length sausage being constantly exstruded with no twisting ties...alteast that we know of.

Time is not situated outside of three-dimensional space. Time and space are the same entity. It is biological, intuitive limitation alone that forces us to isolate the two. Were you outside the "bubble", there would be no neat line.

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"It is always easier to understand the unknown, for the known will always contradict what we percieve to be true." - Knyte, circa 2006

I prefer this one, myself:

"Quoting oneself defeats the purpose of tritely incoherent Buddhist proverbs as per the asinine egotism inherent in the act." -Firefeng, circa right fucking now.
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View Postfirefeng, on 07 October 2010 - 03:43 PM, said:

I prefer this one, myself:

"Quoting oneself defeats the purpose of tritely incoherent Buddhist proverbs as per the asinine egotism inherent in the act." -Firefeng, circa right fucking now.

Had to comment on this...just had to... it's cute, yet not quite right. I didn't come up with that saying lightly. If you find me someone that said something similar then I will strike my name and that saying from my personal being. Though I highly doubt Buddha, like god or your wonderful flaming bird, will be there.

If you even had an ounce of critical thinking beyond googling topics and spitting it back, or your ever so wonderful, witty, and snappy retorts that require you to break out the thesaurus in order to fulfill your sense of...whatever the fuck you call it, you would see that that saying can apply to any number of historical views on life, the universe, and everything.
"The earth is flat",
"the earth is the center of the universe",
"gods make the rain, snow, and sun", blah, blah, blah, so on and so forth. Each of those views were an attempt by the current people of the time to try to explain what they did not know through what they already knew, however limited the knowledge was. If we ever get to the point where we know everything about everything, I'm fairly certain it will happen just after the Sun reaches its red giant phase.

Honestly though, if I ever have a need to satisfy my egotism I'll go watch porn with my face 'shooped onto the guy fucking the hot chick.
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If you find me someone that said something similar then I will strike my name and that saying from my personal being.


If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties. - Francis Bacon
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View PostKnyte, on 08 October 2010 - 11:17 AM, said:

Had to comment on this...just had to... it's cute, yet not quite right. I didn't come up with that saying lightly. If you find me someone that said something similar then I will strike my name and that saying from my personal being. Though I highly doubt Buddha, like god or your wonderful flaming bird, will be there.


You seem to think I was accusing you of plagiarism (which is kind of funny, in hindsight, because turbidly incoherent adages are a dime a dozen), rather than insulting you for quoting yourself.

Here's a protip: It's your post. You don't have to quote yourself. Just say it. Really.
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