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View PostVigilous, on 30 September 2010 - 04:08 PM, said:

I'm conflicted about that. On the one hand, sure, it's easy to say he should have faced these assholes down. But on the other, he obviously didn't have the nerve to. But when you live that deep in the closet, having someone turn on the light before you're ready can be an extremely traumatizing experience. Especially the way these shit-fucks did it. Putting your true self in a small room for what must have been years can have some truly disastrous effects on your mental state.

Besides, case law tends to disagree; it was their fault.


This pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject. Shouldn't have killed himself but what they did was very very wrong.
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View PostWildstriker, on 07 October 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:

Rutgers has a strict anti-violence policy, thus any fight would have risked him being kicked out of the school. Plus, what we're learning now is that the prosecutor subpoenaed the school because they are not cooperating with investigators: the implication being that the university had complaints but did not act appropriately by separating the two roommates. Also, these are teenagers fresh out of high school and a lot of them lack the mental capacity to think of the long term; that eventually he'd be fine.

So, I feel sorry for him. A lot of us on the internet like to pretend we have some sort of bravado when that really isn't the case. Most problems of this caliber aren't really solved by "punching the bastard." I can't truly understand what it's like for a gay male since I was born heterosexual; I'd like to think I would not have jumped off a bridge. But, what I can induce is this, perhaps he felt like all roads of dealing with his issues would lead to some form of self-ruin.


True, true. Most problems are not solved through violence, no matter how deserving. Although my private, catholic grade school as well as my high school had a strict anti-violence policy as well. That still didn't stop students from hitting each other. Hell, a fist fight broke out in the middle of the hall way because some guy made fun of another guy's family and/or girlfriend. As cliche'd as that sounds. But both were put on probation and still allowed to attend class. Granted, high school and college are different places with different standards and policies. But there are still ways to either bend, or go around the rules. I still say a punch to the face would have been enough to end the issue, but that's just me. Even just confronting the guy with a mean look in your eye and telling him what cockbite he was/is would in all probability have been enough.

However, from a psychology stand-point I sincerely doubt that the kid would have been fine in the long term. Especially if he kept the closet door shut for a protracted amount of time without seeking support and/or professional help. I do not feel sorry for him, persay. However, I do feel sorry for his family that they have to deal with a tragedy like this. All because two probable closet homophobes decided to pull an ill-advised prank on someone that they in all likeliness really did not know anything about, other than his sexual orientation, and also because the university (based on what you just said) ignored complaints. Question though. I don't live in a dorm so I have no clue, but aren't you able to request another room if you show adequate reason?

And on personal note, how I act online is how I am in real life. Hell I just had to look up bravado just now lol. Sure I have moments of over-exaggerated actions, but usually I have my tongue out, talking in a comical voice, and walking like I got frakkin poliosis. My parents taught me to be respectful, but also "if they push you, push back". How you react to situations is based on your personality, how you were raised, and other factors that escape my limited remaining brain cells at the moment. I cannot begin to try to understand how his life was, or what was going on in his head. I can only speak from my own perspective. So...punch to the face it is!!! *wild arm flail*

Now if you excuse me, 'feng should be along shortly to dissect my anatomy, writing style, and prolly my whole family tree while referencing a firearm and a possible orifice. I really, really must go get showered and ready as I think he likes me. That little love gnome always follows me around, it's so cute.
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View PostKnyte, on 08 October 2010 - 10:59 AM, said:

Now if you excuse me, 'feng should be along shortly to dissect my anatomy, writing style, and prolly my whole family tree while referencing a firearm and a possible orifice. I really, really must go get showered and ready as I think he likes me. That little love gnome always follows me around, it's so cute.


Actually, I was just going to tell you that it's "per se", not "persay", and that anyone who has ever been involved in any sort of violence on that personal of a level would already know that punching some dude's lights out would only exacerbate the situation. The Hollywood situation where you haymaker someone's skull in, then buy them a beer and are laughing together by the end of the night is, in real life, a fluke, not the way of things.

If I made pets out of everyone with whom I've exchanged harsh words on KI, I'd probably need collars for 90% of you. You're not hilariously dumb enough to be a viable target for my continued fixation. Be on your way.
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If I made pets out of everyone with whom I've exchanged harsh words on KI, I'd probably need collars for 90% of you. You're not hilariously dumb enough to be a viable target for my continued fixation. Be on your way.


Would never have imagined you were a furry 'feng.
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View PostKay, on 25 October 2010 - 08:29 AM, said:

Would never have imagined you were a furry 'feng.

I am unsurprised you would conflate owning pets with fucking them.
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With anyone else I wouldn't.
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I was unaware that video was so widely known. My partner for it, Lillybell, was hit by a car last summer. I...will miss her.

*sobs softly*
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