[Chriscoffey]

Taint, on 25 October 2010 - 09:56 AM, said:

What Beast would you use? Any that don't give ruby? There are 4 of us on Cerb on Beast but no one is real motivated lol.

Fudo is broken btw my LSmate took 14% off Fafnir last night with a solo light SC lol.

la la la la fuck you SE la la la summed up version of how i feel.

[UNCTGTG]

I am enjoying U. Range, since during the week nights it only has like 1 other person there. Still hard to believe that once I have this done. 9500 mobs or more dead.

[firefeng]

I'd laugh if Squenix "balanced" Empyreal weapons with Relics by having the next step of Empyreal weapons require 500 coins from Walk of Echoes.

[Taint]

firefeng, on 26 October 2010 - 11:16 AM, said:

I'd laugh if Squenix "balanced" Empyreal weapons with Relics by having the next step of Empyreal weapons require 500 coins from Walk of Echoes.

Nope it'll be 50 drops from a mob everyone is farming for their body pieces. I'm hoping for relics to get access to Emp WSs. Mostly for all my friends with Amano but Apoc would benefit a ton from a stronger WS to accompany Cata.

[Chriscoffey]

Taint, on 26 October 2010 - 02:16 PM, said:

Nope it'll be 50 drops from a mob everyone is farming for their body pieces. I'm hoping for relics to get access to Emp WSs. Mostly for all my friends with Amano but Apoc would benefit a ton from a stronger WS to accompany Cata.

That still wouldn't even parse for shit against the atma boost that the other jobs can achieve. I guess it could be closer when outside of abyssea but considering how broken fudo is i dare wonder exactly what is balanced in the eyes of SE. I think someone on the game developer side has a hard on for Sam and that's just how it will be. I guess what pisses me off the most is my friends saying how shtity dark is and the almighty Sam is glorified to the point a dumb fuck with no clue can still blow the doors off a well geared Dark.

I want to take this time to thank UNC and Nameless for guiding me down the better path of enlightment for a good Dark gear set IF they ever bring Dark back to it's former self. I have came up with a 1.8 second round 4 hit combo with rolls of 2, 10 and 11. Both of you guys helped me figure this out over the time we have gotten updates so I am leveling my other 2 characters to have bard and corsair full time with me. I appreciate the tips you indirectly gave me over this time.

[Banter]

tacquon, on 25 October 2010 - 03:20 AM, said:

i have to agree with chris, im no relic owner mind you but i always said to myself that i wanted apoc and imagined the sets of gear ect ect, now looking at other jobs and what af3 they have and how the haste caps are now plus atmas and that drk is being force fed this "cast spellz lul" bs its really falling behind. looking at war af3 for example and holy crikes man theres loads of haste acc attack and a bunch of DA as well, stack that with some atmas and now im seeing why my ls has a couple wars and 1-2 mnks and sams plus the th4 as dd and i have to come as a rather "AH" blm rather than a nicely geared(lack ebody /relic as most noticeable) drk that usually out damages the ppl my ls brings, this isnt due to anything other than a) war can trigger i think like 8 of the ws "!!!" 2)sam is and in my opinion been broken a long time pus can trigger some "!!!" that war cant and mnk because mnk has always been top tier when the player was devoted to it, kinda sad for some of the mnks out there that worked their ass's off for full usu/relic counter gear swaps capping guard all those finer points of the job and now af3 can cancel out half the equation.

im not as hardcore at ff like i use to be but in all honesty, i think the way abyssea is and the new "retard mode" its introduced has hurt the ppl that played this game loyally for years like relic owners. heres for hoping in the future updates but i can tell you now, i wont be holdinig my breath. love the game but not thinking ill be playing much longer if things continue down this path. its all a grind now without proper "reward" "accomplishment" ratio
sry for the rant an wall o text lulz

Pretty sure full Usu is still top of the line for MNK, but not by a whole lot.

[Torak]

7/8 head seals,spammed quest for a couple hours because no one in ls was free for NM and still no drop. i hate these shit quests and even worse drop rate than NMs...

[Fredjan]

I have 2 AF3+1 so far. Head (all seals came from Eruca) and Legs (quested the seals). I have Bale Sollerets, but no seals yet. Those who have feet upgraded: What NM would you recommend I spam in Abyssea - Vunkerl? Quest doesn't look fun.

[Taint]

Fredjan, on 27 October 2010 - 07:50 AM, said:

I have 2 AF3+1 so far. Head (all seals came from Eruca) and Legs (quested the seals). I have Bale Sollerets, but no seals yet. Those who have feet upgraded: What NM would you recommend I spam in Abyssea - Vunkerl? Quest doesn't look fun.

I got mine off Vamp and Taurus....Taurus is easy except his doom move. Vamp you need to /nin and have a good RDM or WHM to buff and cure you. Neither is too tough with a few friends.

[Taint]

Banter, on 26 October 2010 - 10:03 PM, said:

Pretty sure full Usu is still top of the line for MNK, but not by a whole lot.

Its not, unless you need the ACC which no one does anymore.

[Chriscoffey]

Taint, on 27 October 2010 - 08:39 AM, said:

I got mine off Vamp and Taurus....Taurus is easy except his doom move. Vamp you need to /nin and have a good RDM or WHM to buff and cure you. Neither is too tough with a few friends.

I checked out the NM and I know of one way to avoiding doom but its not a legit way of doing it.

This post has been edited by Chriscoffey: 27 October 2010 - 09:00 AM

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Taint, on 27 October 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:

Its not, unless you need the ACC which no one does anymore.

I believe it was more about the STP and somewhat the STR, though that's mostly irrelevant as well.

[firefeng]

Chriscoffey, on 27 October 2010 - 08:54 AM, said:

I checked out the NM and I know of one way to avoiding doom but its not a legit way of doing it.

So bring a few stacks of holy water and hope for the best?

[Banter]

firefeng, on 27 October 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

So bring a few stacks of holy water and hope for the best?

You can turn from doom (at least on old stegs) if your lag isn't terrible.

[Taint]

Nope can't turn from it

[Banter]

Taint, on 27 October 2010 - 02:25 PM, said:

Nope can't turn from it

Why they gotta go and change things

[Chriscoffey]

Taint, on 27 October 2010 - 02:25 PM, said:

Nope can't turn from it

I was referring to plane hacking which isn't legit with your Z axis during the move. GreyRabbits a JP LS on carbuncle was doing that with tiamat back when hate was so finicky. They would curaga then to plane hack up so the whm took the AOE's. It has it's uses but that is how my 1st character was banned due to plane hacking 16k/hour bst pets back when 5k hour was smoking hot exp with my SMN. Smn was main healing and shit to level back during that time. When you do that the mob will go up in the air unless you can time it for the move then back down again. It is pretty simple to time really for a split second. It takes no more skill than to dodge throat stab or turn during mortral ray. I just don't recommend it since its a hack.

This post has been edited by Chriscoffey: 27 October 2010 - 03:29 PM

[Kirschy]

Fredjan, on 27 October 2010 - 07:50 AM, said:

I have 2 AF3+1 so far. Head (all seals came from Eruca) and Legs (quested the seals). I have Bale Sollerets, but no seals yet. Those who have feet upgraded: What NM would you recommend I spam in Abyssea - Vunkerl? Quest doesn't look fun.

The Djinn NM is crazy easy I'd recommend doing that one. No gimmicks at all, straight forward fight. Casts buffs/-ga debuffs and can't explode. A good DD + Mage can duo this np, if you're lacking atma might wanna do trio. DRK SAM WHM and BLU feet, so shouldn't be hard to find a friend or two who wants the other seals~

[Fredjan]

Kirschy, on 27 October 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

The Djinn NM is crazy easy I'd recommend doing that one. No gimmicks at all, straight forward fight. Casts buffs/-ga debuffs and can't explode. A good DD + Mage can duo this np, if you're lacking atma might wanna do trio. DRK SAM WHM and BLU feet, so shouldn't be hard to find a friend or two who wants the other seals~

Works perfect for me, thanks. Have WHM and BLU leveled as well, wife has SAM. I could get extra help easily enough. We have 15mp/tic available from atma, but we're lacking a bit on melee/tank atma.

This post has been edited by Fredjan: 27 October 2010 - 08:45 PM

[firefeng]

Another stupid piece of speculation, but bear with me: Have you tested to see if a single mob damaging you affects possible proc rate?

I ask because I remember the hypotheses surrounding Insurgency's old "hidden damage modifier".