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View PostMattelotLeviathan, on 20 October 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:

Ok... I was going to say. One thing a good friend of mine said a while back which couldn't be more true was... Aleera is one of those people who somebody at one point made the mistake of saying "you're funny." It's very bad to encourage people of that caliber because then they'll never stop pretending to contribute to discussions with the most asinine things while sitting back, rubbing their hands together and thinking they just "pwned" you.



Orly? Cause I kinda felt this about you (and that cock sock friend you call BaliCupid being that friend, who's constantly got his lips resting comfortably around the tip of your dick every time you get into a heated argument.) You and Albela are like the only two to ever harass me on these boards and constantly play the "I'm better than you, just because" card, and the only two to ever make such claims about me and my humour. I'm sorry you personally don't find me funny, but it doesn't mean the rest of KI or anyone else I encounter in-game or IRL doesn't, whether or not they explicitly state they do openly. So seriously, finish up getting your jollies off bashing me for this again, 'cause you're seriously getting boring with this shit. Then go troll somewhere else.

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View Postfirefeng, on 20 October 2010 - 09:30 AM, said:

I dunno, I've found that the difference between PUGs and endgame shells is that one requires me to spend entirely too damn long shouting, and one requires me to sit around lazily until we get around to doing it.

I'm an extraordinarily lazy person.


Aye you're right about that. Pugs are only really good if you're the one in charge, meaning you have to do your homework, know everything that's needed, explain everything in detail to everyone, etc. Gotta take charge the whole time so it's not for everyone.
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It's easily doable, it just starts feeling too much like work after a while. I dunno how LS leaders put up with it.
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View Post-Kaine-, on 17 October 2010 - 04:22 AM, said:

Now I loved FFXI..and I still do.. but it's really too much demanding in terms of time..!
I got to level 75 and quit because my equip couldn't be on par with others of my classes.. when the cap was raised I tried returning but I never got a darned party for merits..
I never could finish any of the expansions or attain rank 10.. whenever I found a party for missions I had to go too soon.. relic weapons take ages to complete.. on top of that I was kicked out from an Sky/HNMLS for insufficient presence.. unfortunately my job doesn't allow me to play regularly but it seems they put the game even before the real life.. then they started to add more missions and quests that required you to have a complete alliance to beat.. and basically witohut a LS you could never do them..
So basically.. if you don't have enough time to waste on your hands, FFXI is not your game.. otherwise you're gonna get left behind in the dust.. this is what I learned from experience..

FFXIV on the other hand.. as much as incomplete the game is now.. it's not demanding me to stay on for ridicolous amounts of time to get something I need.. this game is able to give me the feeling "I have to go but it's okay.. I can do this later.."
It's much more oriented towards casual players and those with time taking jobs.. what I'm trying to say is that you have a lot more freedom and alot less pressure from the hardcore players community that demands you to have certain equipment otherwise you suck.. :/



The thing is you can't quote FFXIV yet when you compare it to FFXI. FFXIV has no endgame, has very little judgment and so on.

When things advance in FFXIV high end shells may require you to have a multiple jobs leveled just so you can do your job on said event.

I can't think of much exmaple atm but for like a gladiator a bare minuam for level 50 "endgame or 50 NMS" may requre mardaur rank 48, shield 50, conjuere 48 and of cuse glad 50.

thats a hell lot more tedious of tryign to level shit up vs FFXI just based on EXP rates in what FFXI asks you to have for subs.

the the rank 10 comment i have to say thats an unwarrted QQ comment that is not warrented, have been easly done with a few people, seeing you are a RDM there is no excuse not to be able to solo/duo or what not. I returned to FFXI not to long ago and just before braking 75 cap came about I got to rank 5 to rank 10 no problem, it only took a few days only because i met some people to try do the missions with them so i wanted for them.

The gear comment I cannot say because like some other people pointed out some LS are more picky then others. If you ever crossed me though I would require that you do have some sort of gear changes and have you know how your stats impact you. your profile says RDM so i would expect some sort of mind build with correct amount of enfeebling magic to land stuff and have it proc effectively. With the brake of 75 this does not hold as much seeing the game in easy mode it is just throw 18 tards on abyssia NMs and kill them just as long people know how to deal with them ( like nms that recover HP when casting and so on)

curing effectively is still vauble however and im some situations knowing how to precure. that is mroe of a skill set however, one that can only see that in a trial.
in FFXIV precuring is more required then in FFXI esp if you are doing grinding parties on hard mobs.

you cannot down FFXI because of relics/ emperian. SE may give FFXIV something like that andi n all honestly they should.
FFXIV should have content for casual yes, but they should also let hardcore show something too.

nothing in endgame is required unless you are doing engamge, again some shells do give you that 22 because of its age. so again that is invalid saying why ffxiv is better because it is a new game.

FFXIV there is not much to do and it is all easy content for the most part.

in short i think you should of never posted this and its more of a QQ about why i hate FFXI. FFXI was NEVER a causal type game till latly with the 75 and 80 brakes.

now you can get good shit without hardly any effort that compares to 2005 content like e body, Z mitts, novio earing, and so on.

leaders of LSes for the most part have a lot more work invested then what you are trying to do/ claim not being able to do.
yes FFXI was too demanding in general but now after these last brakes it is chaning that concept a lot.

the only complaint i will understand is abyssa exp requiring you to be in there too long before the exp gets good. but now any job can " merit" or exp there. people even let fucking level 30s leech so not inving you based on job is invalid now.

if you are a RDM the only reason you where not invited to merit pre 75 is because you where known for a lack of skill most likey, or tried playing when populations are suffering. As of late it is my understanding FFXI is dieing.

other then that i never herd of a RDM complaining about slow merit invites.

I do not mean to sound like a prick but that is what people do to try weed out idiots vs people that know what they are doing in a 9 year old game.

in FFXIV started having people being picky about the 5 rank thing. you really cannot compare the 2 games, FFXIV is too young.
in FFXI people know what to do (for the most part) people know how to gear( for the most part) and know how to use it. so when you are only needing 1 black mage for your linkshell you are going to have high requirements ( supply and demand rule). in FFXIV there is really no supply or demand for needing of x, y , z yet.

right now FFXIV has bugs, its new and a rushed game. FFXI been refined for 9 years.
they are different, one is not better then the other.
its the same thing of me saying lemons are better then apples.

the only thing you can compare is that FFXIV is a longer grind fest then FFXI and that FFXIV has the new bugs and rushed game feel of issues where ffxi had better ( search function, looking at someone's bazaar and moving, so on)

saying ffXIV is better then FFXI is like saying cars in 2050 are better then cars now because they dont use wheels.

its not something you can't really say yet, i am just emphasizing the game is too new to do that.

This post has been edited by rambus: 20 October 2010 - 10:56 AM

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View PostAleera, on 20 October 2010 - 09:41 AM, said:

Orly? Cause I kinda felt this about you (and that cock sock friend you call BaliCupid being that friend, who's constantly got his lips resting comfortably around the tip of your dick every time you get into a heated argument.) You and Albela are like the only two to ever harass me on these boards and constantly play the "I'm better than you, just because" card, and the only two to ever make such claims about me and my humour. I'm sorry you personally don't find me funny, but it doesn't mean the rest of KI or anyone else I encounter in-game or IRL doesn't, whether or not they explicitly state they do openly. So seriously, finish up getting your jollies off bashing me for this again, 'cause you're seriously getting boring with this shit. Then go troll somewhere else.

This has nothing to do with the fact that I'm your bitch, but -
I love you even if you isn't funnehs.



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View Postfirefeng, on 20 October 2010 - 09:47 AM, said:

It's easily doable, it just starts feeling too much like work after a while. I dunno how LS leaders put up with it.


Yeah you gotta enjoy it. I always liked the "responsibility of command" that goes with running a good shell so I guess most leaders either enjoy it or they're crooked lol
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Orly? Cause I kinda felt this about you (and that cock sock friend you call BaliCupid being that friend, who's constantly got his lips resting comfortably around the tip of your dick every time you get into a heated argument.) You and Albela are like the only two to ever harass me on these boards and constantly play the "I'm better than you, just because" card, and the only two to ever make such claims about me and my humour. I'm sorry you personally don't find me funny, but it doesn't mean the rest of KI or anyone else I encounter in-game or IRL doesn't, whether or not they explicitly state they do openly. So seriously, finish up getting your jollies off bashing me for this again, 'cause you're seriously getting boring with this shit. Then go troll somewhere else.


*yawn* Yeah... anyway... If you think you're funny or that Albela and myself are the only ones who think so or if you think i'm trolling, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

I agree with Dyra to an extent. WoW isn't really a kids game, but it is a lot easier than other games. I like the direction that most are going with the freedom and ease of solo play. Some people enjoy the aspects but feel they should not be punished completely because they're one of the few who have real lives.

As far as HNMLSs go/went in FFXI, depending on the requirements of the shell holder, it does end up being tedious work sometimes. That usually comes from those who have little idea of how to run a shell so they're easy to blameshift... it's always somebody else's fault when something goes wrong. Back in my old shell, we had a few leaders and we met weekly to discuss issues and discussed ways we felt could improve our situation and that seemed to work well. The problem is you have to pick leaders carefully because you'll end up getting those who have the mentality of "it's not a good idea unless it's my idea."

This post has been edited by MattelotLeviathan: 20 October 2010 - 02:00 PM

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