[Balmarog]

I think I asked this once like a year ago... but as things change when I'm gone, I need to ask again. Which is the better solo job?

[Cream Soda]

Rdm

but out of the 2 you listed, bst.

[Balmarog]

Cream Soda, on 18 November 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

Rdm

but out of the 2 you listed, bst.

RDM? WTF... Pet jobs are the best solo leveling! I demand a recount.

[Banter]

Balmarog, on 18 November 2010 - 07:40 AM, said:

I think I asked this once like a year ago... but as things change when I'm gone, I need to ask again. Which is the better solo job?

BST is pretty bad ass with the new pets and a few cruor meds.

[Cream Soda]

Balmarog, on 18 November 2010 - 08:58 AM, said:

RDM? WTF... Pet jobs are the best solo leveling! I demand a recount.

You didn't say solo level. You said solo, which includes NMs and tougher mobs.(In which case, Rdm beats the shit out of pup and bst) There's 0 reason to solo exp in this game.

[Kleiner]

BST. PUP still can't solo exp for crap.

[fillerbunny9]

XP, beastmaster solos 2-3 times faster than puppetmaster, particularly at higher levels. (Jesus H. Christ the 60's are going to be the death of me!) For NM hunting, I'd sooner suggest red mage or beastmaster. There's some stuff PUP can actually do well by pinning and careful use of BLM head, however. (Kesha-Poppo comes immediately to mind) I think PUP certainly has a welcome place in low-manning NMs, but for solo strength find it lacking.

[Balmarog]

Cream Soda, on 18 November 2010 - 12:21 PM, said:

There's 0 reason to solo exp in this game.

There might be 0 reason to *have* to solo, but that doesn't mean there's absolutely no reason to solo. I often just prefer it that way.

[azagarth1]

hmm Id say pup 1-40~ is faster solo than bst, worms are a god send if you know how to use SS+distancing. past that pup solo drops tons, but smashing ep-dc with FOV page is probably going to be same xp rate as bst these lvs solo, not until come 60s would I think bst is undoubtedly better, where Ts start hitting to hard for pup to not take somewhat defensive stance to them even with whm bot.

All that does not really matter though as its all about endgame since thats where you will be majority of your ffxi career. At that point pup can do some cool stuff, but it takes skill somewhat. You will pin and use blm auto almost exclusively in this scenario, where as for bst its same ole tactic as it was every other lv, toss pets at it.

I personally would go pup IF you hardcore, if your a casual player bst is probably better because it depends less on your gear and more on your pet. a gimp pup is really gimp solo, where as for bst they could be naked usually lol

[Banter]

azagarth1, on 20 November 2010 - 10:38 AM, said:

hmm Id say pup 1-40~ is faster solo than bst, worms are a god send if you know how to use SS+distancing. past that pup solo drops tons, but smashing ep-dc with FOV page is probably going to be same xp rate as bst these lvs solo, not until come 60s would I think bst is undoubtedly better, where Ts start hitting to hard for pup to not take somewhat defensive stance to them even with whm bot.

All that does not really matter though as its all about endgame since thats where you will be majority of your ffxi career. At that point pup can do some cool stuff, but it takes skill somewhat. You will pin and use blm auto almost exclusively in this scenario, where as for bst its same ole tactic as it was every other lv, toss pets at it.

I personally would go pup IF you hardcore, if your a casual player bst is probably better because it depends less on your gear and more on your pet. a gimp pup is really gimp solo, where as for bst they could be naked usually lol

BST is a better general DD for more average things atm (grinding xp, lower tier NMs etc) where PUP is only better on things where you wouldn't really want either job at in the first place. However, PUP is still a really strong DD right now granted you have 1. Stringing Pummel and 2. Razed Ruins atma. Second one isn't so bad to get, but the first one is kind of a pain in the ass. Without both of them, PUP is really a sub par DD.

[Avarghaladion]

Banter, on 18 November 2010 - 11:22 AM, said:

BST is pretty bad ass with the new pets and a few cruor meds.

Yes! The new pets are amazing. They hit almost as hard as relics. So hawt.

[Banter]

Avarghaladion, on 21 November 2010 - 06:33 PM, said:

They hit almost as hard as relics.

No

[azagarth1]

i guess since i have sp and rr im biased lol....

[Silvra]

I would agree that for shear "solo" play RDM has enough tools to be able to solo almost anything

EXP speed wise 1-40 PUP is sometimes faster than BST

Overall I think you will find with the right situations they are fairly even exp wise.

EXP Solo in FFXI is just not as good as partying will be though. I have found that on PUP for great exp I team up with 1-2 people (BLU/DNC/SCH/RDM are awesome) and do some FoV. With my evasion setup and WHM head, all I need is another DD and some job that can buff/debuff (blind,slow,regen work wonders), I tank and allow both the other people to DD. Taking T-VT and chaining 4-5 constantly, I never have a problem of dying or slow exp. With a solid evasion setup I rarely take damage from most V-VT mobs. Pre 35~40 this is a bit harder on PUP but after that its candy.


BST will also be solid solo play although there are slow bumps in the road exp wise, and in small parties they are better suited as a DD.

[Aleera]

I don't know why RDM got thrown into the equation so much when the question was about PUP vs BST solo, but if I had to choose I'd side with BST as far as soloing goes. PUP can do well in exp solo 1-40, but past that BST is excellent for solo exp and soloing a lot of NMs. Both jobs (assuming adequately geared and the player has a grasp of how the job works) can make great DD/back up healers in low man parties, and PUP can do well in small manaburn pts on NMs and stuff. I've low-manned Cuelebre(sp?) on PUP with a PLD and a THF there for TH and it was ridiculously easy, never pulled hate, and killed it in about 20~ min or so. I've seen a few BST own the crap out of a lot of abyssea mobs, too. Both jobs are great to have at 85, but getting there solo you'd have a much easier/faster time soloing on BST.

[Balmarog]

If I thought that I could get PUP leveled, I'd definitely play it. I have it at 35 right now, but I really don't want to level it via leeching xp in abyssea. I'd rather *play* it lol. I love BST too though. It's hard for me to choose between the two, but people tell me PUP don't get party invites any way, so I like to make sure soloability is a viable option, as I do do it often enough.

[Aleera]

Sadly it's almost impossible to level any job traditionally now because of Abyssea, let alone BST or PUP.. Which sucks cause I wanted to level COR at some point but I doubt it'd get any invites at 26. lol

[Cream Soda]

Aleera, on 23 November 2010 - 10:50 AM, said:

Sadly it's almost impossible to level any job traditionally now because of Abyssea, let alone BST or PUP.. Which sucks cause I wanted to level COR at some point but I doubt it'd get any invites at 26. lol

Fields of valor for 4 levels and you're set.

[Banter]

azagarth1, on 22 November 2010 - 02:34 PM, said:

i guess since i have sp and rr im biased lol....

RR and Rampage is just as good/better.

[Banter]

Probably better just because of all the gear BST gets that PUP doesn't.