[Angelous]

Well its that time folks to speculate on what spells BLU will get once update hits What are your thoughts

[Prothescar]

First set of HNM spells seems kinda likely since we can probably access every HNM type now, (except Behemoths), in Abyssea now.

This post has been edited by Prothescar: 24 November 2010 - 05:28 PM

[Poochoo]

Maybe they'll finally give us Spider Web like it was shown in the debut trailer for Blue Mages =)...?

[Varizen]

Poochoo, on 24 November 2010 - 05:28 PM, said:

Maybe they'll finally give us Spider Web like it was shown in the debut trailer for Blue Mages =)...?

That will be the level 99 spell.

[rambus]

Prothescar, on 24 November 2010 - 05:27 PM, said:

First set of HNM spells seems kinda likely since we can probably access every HNM type now, (except Behemoths), in Abyssea now.

I dont recall getting anything HNM releated, then again abyssa to me is not HNM.

where is flail and so on?

[Aeonknight]

Prothescar, on 24 November 2010 - 05:27 PM, said:

First set of HNM spells seems kinda likely since we can probably access every HNM type now, (except Behemoths), in Abyssea now.

Hadhayosh.

edit: Also OP, i hate you. I was hoping there'd been information released.
Speculation is kinda pointless considering alot of our recent ones came out of left field (quadratic being one of them)

This post has been edited by Aeonknight: 24 November 2010 - 06:25 PM

[Prothescar]

rambus, on 24 November 2010 - 06:21 PM, said:

I dont recall getting anything HNM releated, then again abyssa to me is not HNM.

where is flail and so on?

Never said we got them yet, said the first set of spells seems likely.

This post has been edited by Prothescar: 24 November 2010 - 08:20 PM

[Varizen]

Where to get the HNM spells:

Wyrms- Abyssea Tahrongi/Assault
Behemoths - Limbus
Adamantoises - Abyssea Tahrongi
Cerberus - Assault
Hydra - Assault
Khimaira - Assault

[Terranova]

rambus, on 24 November 2010 - 06:21 PM, said:

I dont recall getting anything HNM releated

SE said they were going to consider giving us HNM spells here, under "Job Adjustments" under the Blue Mage tab. Also, it's interesting to look at the planned changes and see how many of them SE has interacted; see what direction they went based on what they said they would do. They've actually kept fairly straight to their track, it seems. At least, to some extent.

As for speculation? An HNM spell at 90 as a teaser for what's to come would not surprise me at all. However, I wonder how SE would make them different than normal spells... seeing as how SE tweaks the spell effects to whatever they feel is good. Quadratic Continuum is by no means a notable TP move in the realm of monsters, and yet it produces incredible numbers. Thus, it would be logical for HNM spells to be different/unique in some other way to make them important. Maybe new job traits, or unique effects? Status effects (like Curse from Hydra, Terrorize from Khimaira, Amnesia from Monocerii), knockback (Behemoth), TP drain (Vampyr), charm (Vampyr or Dvergr), intimidation (Dvergr), or just absurd amounts of damage (Spike Flail heheheh).

Wouldn't surprise me if we got combinations for Fencer, Critical Attack/Defense Bonus, Occult Acumen, or Conserve TP - all of those would be pretty neat on BLU. Would be neat if the HNM spells let us get more job-specific Job Traits, such as Triple Attack, Treasure Hunter, Kick Attacks, etc...

Varizen, on 24 November 2010 - 09:27 PM, said:

Where to get the HNM spells:

Wyrms- Abyssea Tahrongi/Assault
Behemoths - Limbus
Adamantoises - Abyssea Tahrongi
Cerberus - Assault
Hydra - Assault
Khimaira - Assault

There's also Sandworms in Tahrongi.


Should also note we haven't yet got anything from Yovra, Orobon, Detectors, or Djinni.

This post has been edited by Terranova: 24 November 2010 - 09:56 PM

[Kimjongil76]

Behemoths ....

This is the the La Thina Planes. The NM that drops +10 dex legs. I dont know about you guys but I hate this guy. For three weeks straight my ls has been farming this sone for weapons and ending with him.

They keep trying to get atma, but we never do.


As for spells
The two multi hit ones I want

Hexidice, 6 hit spell from balls in sea.
Comdemnation from demons. A four hit attack


Bloody Claw would be nice from gargoyles

And some sort of new breath spell. Heat breath was 71. We will be 90. Before Heat breath 53-54 were the two breath spells we got.

This post has been edited by Kimjongil76: 24 November 2010 - 09:54 PM

[Varizen]

I don't think Detectors have any moves other than to summon dolls or pots.

[Aeonknight]

I think he means Ghrah's in sea. Hexidiscs.
And it's not Condemnation from demons, that's the conal stun move. Quadrastrike is what you're thinking of.

[Angelous]

I wouldn't know if kick attack trait would be nice but Occult Acumen and Conserve TP would be nice although new combos for fast cast would be nice and for some others too

[Kimjongil76]

think he means Ghrah's in sea. Hexidiscs.
And it's not Condemnation from demons, that's the conal stun move. Quadrastrike is what you're thinking of.


Yes, thanks for helping me out on that. I admit when I was in Castle O, the Demon NM dark used Quadrastrike and it wiped a 18 man party. So yeah, I'd love to see that. Also its cool to see the jumping in the air.

[rambus]

Kimjongil76, on 24 November 2010 - 11:57 PM, said:

think he means Ghrah's in sea. Hexidiscs.

Actinic burst????

and far as what SE said yeah maybe we will see, i dont trust anything till it happens, they even did update take back ( the ranger move comes to mind)

Kimjongil76, on 24 November 2010 - 11:57 PM, said:

think he means Ghrah's in sea. Hexidiscs.
And it's not Condemnation from demons, that's the conal stun move. Quadrastrike is what you're thinking of.


Yes, thanks for helping me out on that. I admit when I was in Castle O, the Demon NM dark used Quadrastrike and it wiped a 18 man party. So yeah, I'd love to see that. Also its cool to see the jumping in the air.

/point warm up, you will not jump in the air.

This post has been edited by rambus: 25 November 2010 - 01:28 AM

[Torak]

[quote name='rambus' timestamp='1290669973' post='3875712']
Actinic burst????

yeah and? the past couple of updates have seen us get second spells from current mobs( magic barrier and battery charge, animated wail sping to mind) but yea id like to see a dragon( mini faf in tahrongi, sandworm, mini in tahrongi again among others. also there will be 2 new types of abyssean mobs we will get a spell from just like the previous abyssea expantions.

[Banter]

Varizen, on 24 November 2010 - 09:27 PM, said:

Where to get the HNM spells:

Wyrms- Abyssea Tahrongi/Assault
Behemoths - Limbus
Adamantoises - Abyssea Tahrongi
Cerberus - Assault
Hydra - Assault
Khimaira - Assault

If you didn't watch the new trailer, they're adding reskinned versions of the TOAU HNMs in the next add on.

[Banter]

Angelous, on 24 November 2010 - 11:51 PM, said:

I wouldn't know if kick attack trait would be nice

Would be worthless unless they decide to give BLU some H2H skill.

[mightyg]

Kimjongil76, on 24 November 2010 - 11:57 PM, said:

think he means Ghrah's in sea. Hexidiscs.
And it's not Condemnation from demons, that's the conal stun move. Quadrastrike is what you're thinking of.


Yes, thanks for helping me out on that. I admit when I was in Castle O, the Demon NM dark used Quadrastrike and it wiped a 18 man party. So yeah, I'd love to see that. Also its cool to see the jumping in the air.

Condemnation is actually threefold as well. Would be nice to get it as a weaponskill, since, you know, you fly for a sec. A physical based drain move would be cool, like bloody caress or claw. We don't technically have any fomor moves either. Shackled Fists or Netherspikes would be cool additions.

[Prothescar]

Only problem with the little fafs in Tahrongi is, I don't think they can flail. Or at least, I haven't been able to trigger it. ;;