[rambus]

I found this interesting:
http://ffxiv.zam.com...tml?story=24521

since i do see some white knighing on the game here, I can understand there might be too much bashing on it, but to say it has no problems is a bit ignorant and all that leads to less improvement. If you say everything is fine, nothing is changed, the only reason this game changed so far is because of the hard hit financially and the mass pubic bashing.

Like this quote:

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I'd change the *white knight* to *blind knight* to be honest, these people get a simple thing like an extra retainer and all of a sudden the game is the best thing on the planet... these blind knights are the reason why the state of the game is so sh*t for so long

If you find even the smallest of errors, you do not need to overextrate it, but it shouldn't be ignored ether, point it out let SE know, so they can fix it and allow the game to be more enjoyable. To say "live with it" , " i have no problems why do you?" is a bit ignorant to a point i think both sides need to open up more. Even if you have 100 people saying X is broken, 1 saying it is fine, they may side with that it is fine and call the 100 people loony.

another:

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Potential is great, but in the long run potential is NOT what makes a game and keeps players coming back.

Take Vanguard:Saga of Heroes, for example. The game launched too early, too many bugs, too many incomplete concepts. The game today has most if not all those problems fixed, its potential much more highly developed, but it is still devoid of players.

Can a game recover? Yes, but it is NOT common for them to do so. DDO, EQ2, recovered nicely, AoC not so well. Dark&Light, APB, completely failed to recover at all.

Many players give a game only the initial 'free' month to awe and impress, and it is hard as hell to draw them back after the flee a failed launch.

so i think the big question is, can ps3 release be the shock pads to get the heart going again.

[Corrderio]

Unless the new dev teams gets their ass in gear I doubt it. Right now the 3 major concerns I have are XP Gain, the shitty retainer system, and lack of content.

XP gain is a huge pain in the ass at rank 50 w/o leves, even then unless you have a dedicated static party for leves it's painfully slow.

Retainer system is a huge step back from the AH. While the search function was good, it still feels like a crappy version of the AH, why SE didn't try to take the AH system and build it up from it I have no clue.

Content isn't much of a worry since it will come in due time, I am however concerned if the content we get will be as small as the NM update and only aimed at a certain level for the playerbase (IE: NMs were only for people around Rank 50, a huge mistake on SE's end)

[rambus]

Corrderio, on 26 December 2010 - 08:26 PM, said:

Unless the new dev teams gets their ass in gear I doubt it. Right now the 3 major concerns I have are XP Gain, the shitty retainer system, and lack of content.

XP gain is a huge pain in the ass at rank 50 w/o leves, even then unless you have a dedicated static party for leves it's painfully slow.

Retainer system is a huge step back from the AH. While the search function was good, it still feels like a crappy version of the AH, why SE didn't try to take the AH system and build it up from it I have no clue.

Content isn't much of a worry since it will come in due time, I am however concerned if the content we get will be as small as the NM update and only aimed at a certain level for the playerbase (IE: NMs were only for people around Rank 50, a huge mistake on SE's end)

yeah I understand all that but the thing that haves me consern is guild mark gain. the reason for that is because it is not been talked about much from what i seen. I made a post why, the simple version is you don't gain enough. right now it feels a rush to get 50 then go back and get all the marks you need, it should be buy the abilities that you need as you go.

that topic made me wonder though , who would be the "white knights" here and who are the "trolls"

This post has been edited by rambus: 26 December 2010 - 10:40 PM

[Corrderio]

I haven't noticed anything that wows me in terms of JAs anyway for Lancer marks. However I think SE has a lot more to worry about before then.