[PaladinAlik]

Well as you all know Cor is extremely expensive. and after looking at the new rolls, only a few of them look really all that useful. the flee roll is nice, Regain of course is great too. but the snapshot roll looks worthless unless theres a rng and even then I'm sure theres better choices available. the - delay roll looks nice, but since its gonna cut into tp gain, I wonder if its still worthwhile (suppose since it stacks, it might help give some melees the 100 fist like effect)

[Banter]

With most 1 hander jobs coming near or reaching the delay cap quite easily, the -delay roll loses a lot of worth.

[pathwriter]

There's a cap on that?

[Banter]

pathwriter, on 04 February 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

There's a cap on that?

There's a total delay reduction cap of 80%, not just from Haste or Samba, but job traits too. It's why hundred fists was though for the longest time to be around 73% reduction.

[pathwriter]

Does that count Martial Arts? 'cause that alone is a 42% reduction.

[Banter]

pathwriter, on 05 February 2011 - 10:42 AM, said:

Does that count Martial Arts? 'cause that alone is a 42% reduction.

Yep, and Dual Wield too.

[pathwriter]

Ok, so this is just napkinmath, but wouldn't that mean that anything past about 50% Haste on Monk is completely wasted?

Edit:
Math is a little off, I think it is closer to 60%. That'd certainly make Haste Samba far less attractive than used to be the case.

[Banter]

pathwriter, on 05 February 2011 - 02:58 PM, said:

Ok, so this is just napkinmath, but wouldn't that mean that anything past about 50% Haste on Monk is completely wasted?

Edit:
Math is a little off, I think it is closer to 60%. That'd certainly make Haste Samba far less attractive than used to be the case.

Aye, I'm just going off of friends info (which is 99.9% of the time accurate and up to date, so i trust it), but that's correct. NIN doesn't need too much more than Haste to cap out with top of the line gear. However, 2handers / single wielders have a TON of ground that they can make up here because of the lack of traits compared to MNK, PUP, NIN and DNC, and it's not too hard for them to get it with /SAM.