[rambus]

Dynamis can range from 1-4 hours ( don't know what max is with all TEs i never actually timed it). I seen a lot of people saying 4 hours is too long for an event dyna lasts too long and so on. To a degree I can understand that, and infact I did understood that 4 hours is too long till abyssea came out. People spend hours on end in abyssea, day after day and never complain about it taking too long, why is that? for exping, to make it worth it you need to stay there at lest 2 hours because how it builds up. even one shot to a NM buying 4 pops can take some people 1-2 hours depending what it is, i know some take 10 mins.

point is for any real farm in abyssea your starting around 2 hrs time that can climb up to 10 hours or more a day and do this day after day, so i ask you why people complain about dynamis taking too long but never abyssea?

[Arkley]

It's pretty obvious. Dynamis used to be a brutal event where you'd go for up to four hours, twice a week, and achieve nothing 95% of the time. Sure, you could eventually get the item you wanted, if your LS was doing the right zone, if it dropped, and if you had priority and points for it. But most of the time? You're there for four hours, dying and losing exp, and getting nothing tangible in return.

In Abyssea, you're constantly achieving something, even if it's just progress towards a greater goal. Exp flows quickly and in enormous quantities if you're exping, NMs either respawn very quickly or are popped. Whether you're farming or questing something, it all happens quickly and you can see progress clearly.

Of course, Dynamis different now. You can go into Dynamis with four people and get every worthwhile drop in the zone within 30 minutes. But yeah, that's why people bitched about Dynamis but not Abyssea.

This post has been edited by Arkley: 26 February 2011 - 03:55 PM

[Littlebender]

People still do dynamis?

[Banter]

People still play FFXI?

[Zak]

Banter, on 26 February 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

People still play FFXI?

What else are you gonna play?

[rambus]

Even if people dont play ffxi or dyna, I still want to know

Why do people compain about dyamis taking too long and not abyssea? when a single event in abyssea takes longer then dynamis.

[Banter]

rambus, on 26 February 2011 - 07:04 PM, said:

Even if people dont play ffxi or dyna, I still want to know

Why do people compain about dyamis taking too long and not abyssea? when a single event in abyssea takes longer then dynamis.

It was already answered very clearly you twat.

[rambus]

Banter, on 26 February 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

It was already answered very clearly you twat.

so one person speaks to everyone?

and its something i disagree with since people CLEARY stated TOO MUCH TIME, nothing to do with loot. It was stated that playing or 4 hours to do one thing IS TOO MUCH TIME to be sitting at a computer.

This post has been edited by rambus: 26 February 2011 - 08:28 PM

[Corrderio]

I have never seen someone complain about such trival/useless shit in my life.

[Banter]

rambus, on 26 February 2011 - 08:25 PM, said:

so one person speaks to everyone?

and its something i disagree with since people CLEARY stated TOO MUCH TIME, nothing to do with loot. It was stated that playing or 4 hours to do one thing IS TOO MUCH TIME to be sitting at a computer.

Dynamis is too much time pulling your fucking hair out hating a game just to maybe acquire loot because any time is too much time doing that. Abyssea is not too much time because you'll actually accomplish something.

[Banter]

P.S. Everyone agrees with me, the end.

[Gredival]

Dynamis has a far lower reward/time investment ratio. How many good AFs are there? Less than 10%. How long would relics take through just Dynamis alone? Months. How many good AF3 is there? Virtually all of it. How long do Empyreans take? A week for a good group.

[Banter]

Gredival, on 26 February 2011 - 10:32 PM, said:

Dynamis has a far lower reward/time investment ratio. How many good AFs are there? Less than 10%. How long would relics take through just Dynamis alone? Months. How many good AF3 is there? Virtually all of it. How long do Empyreans take? A week for a good group.

I'd say that more than 10% of AF2 are useful (each set generally has at least two pieces that you'll want for one reason or another), but I'll agree that they are nowhere near as useful as AF3 on the whole.

[rambus]

Hmmm shame people don't post anymore like the people that did complain about the event langh. I remember people saying something should not take more then 2 hrs like how salvage is set up, einherjar, limbus and so on. I don't even think people that could do 1-2 hrs a day even play anymore.

I did not think there was such a large population that did not mind playing 10 hours straight, I guess we need the 16 hr PW fight back.

at lest before abyssea you had gear that was good you could make use out of, now it is just making overpowered people more overpowered, what is the reward in that?

whats the point in getting all this super gear? 6 main AV?

This post has been edited by rambus: 27 February 2011 - 02:25 AM

[Banter]

rambus, on 27 February 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

Hmmm shame people don't post anymore like the people that did complain about the event langh. I remember people saying something should not take more then 2 hrs like how salvage is set up, einherjar, limbus and so on. I don't even think people that could do 1-2 hrs a day even play anymore.

I did not think there was such a large population that did not mind playing 10 hours straight, I guess we need the 16 hr PW fight back.

at lest before abyssea you had gear that was good you could make use out of, now it is just making overpowered people more overpowered, what is the reward in that?

whats the point in getting all this super gear? 6 main AV?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[pathwriter]

Dumbass, why don't you tell the people what they should be saying since you so clearly are determined not to accept the very self-evident and thoroughly logical response you got from Arkley?

If you need it dumbed down even further than has been: you are forced to value your time in Dynamis because of the lockout and most of the time you will leave with nothing significant to show for it. Abyssea gives you a constant flow of reinforcement (by way of XP or NM respawns or whatever you're doing that day) with no significant lockout or pressure. It's the perfect combination of carrot-and-stick: 99% carrot, 1% stick.

[Cream Soda]

Abyssea is timed (and even then, you can get infinite TEs). That's about the only thing even close to dyna in terms of comparison.

In Abyssea, it's more like Sky, Sea, etc. You get to go out, roam a huge zone, random enemies, NMs, can exp, etc. Aside from the time limit, which again, you can stay in as long as you like anyways, it's pretty much a regular zone.

Dyna gets old fast for 5/6 of the people in the group because it's simply mash assist button, run to mob, ws maybe every other mob, repeat for 3-4hrs with pretty much nothing else going on inbetween.

[rambus]

pathwriter, on 27 February 2011 - 04:22 AM, said:

Dumbass, why don't you tell the people what they should be saying since you so clearly are determined not to accept the very self-evident and thoroughly logical response you got from Arkley?

If you need it dumbed down even further than has been: you are forced to value your time in Dynamis because of the lockout and most of the time you will leave with nothing significant to show for it. Abyssea gives you a constant flow of reinforcement (by way of XP or NM respawns or whatever you're doing that day) with no significant lockout or pressure. It's the perfect combination of carrot-and-stick: 99% carrot, 1% stick.

how about if i dumb it down for you dumbass, people SPECIFICALLY SAID 4 HOURS FOR AN EVENT IS TOO LONG!

NOTHING NOTHING to do with fucking gear.

if everyone here is able to sit 10 hrs on end and dont want to hear that argument that tell me, I can't show that view to people with no life.

go tell SE you want your 16 HR PW back

By reading this i think i know the answer now, causal people ether quit or don't post anymore.
that or is one of those people that sit afk hours on end in abyssea hoping no one notice and usually people let them stay for whatever reason.

I even had a party where someone came in , fought 2 mobs then went afk the rest of the time, I told leader this and they said it is ls member so im not kicking them, 2 hrs later still afk...

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Dyna gets old fast for 5/6 of the people in the group because it's simply mash assist button, run to mob, ws maybe every other mob, repeat for 3-4hrs with pretty much nothing else going on inbetween.

sum up all mnos with this?

This post has been edited by rambus: 27 February 2011 - 12:54 PM

[Banter]

If you really can't tell the fucking difference between 4 hours doing something you don't like and 4 hours doing something you do like then you've got more problems then just being dumb as fuck.

[Banter]

I should note though, that I'm still calling you dumb as fuck.