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http://www.zam.com/f...05406254&page=1

as far as that goes im just happy it got back on track with stuff I want to talk about (something that rarely happens here)

I am wondering though, is this slang use of diminishing return widely used like they claim? do people really understand this is a slag? some posts by this one guy reflects that he don't see its really a slang and that is how the term should be used.

I am just shocked when one poster said all online forum people use diminishing return in this slang way.

This post has been edited by rambus: 03 March 2011 - 05:07 PM

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Holy fuck, how many forums do you spam?
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Rambles, you don't know what "diminishing returns" are.
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Also, holy shit, why does your typing never improve? Even if you were capable of being correct, you couch it in language that is thoroughly incomprehensible. I've done tech support for Chinese students who speak about 1000 words of English and it was less frustrating than trying to wade through your keyboard vomit.

But, yes, the skewed and stupid idea that anything in FFXI is subject to mathematical "diminishing returns" has been tossed around by posters on Allakhazam and BlueGartr for fucking years. How have you not yet noticed this? I once thought about arguing the point with them, then I realized: I DON'T GIVE A DAMN. It's a video game, you lunatic. If you're really that interested in knowing why you did X damage instead of Y, focus on that instead of getting into petty, retarded arguments that you'll never win because a.) you are incapable of coherent argument and b.) you're incapable of coherent English. Or just play your game and shut the fuck up. Who cares that you do 50 extra damage of whatever the hell it is when you skillchain as Scholar?
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What surprises me about rambus and typos is he uses firefox.
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Firefox's dictionary will do you no good if you attempt to spell "Banana" with four Qs and a T.
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I can read whatever rambus types without issue, but when I see people type out perfectly fine sentences and use "your" in the wrong context I want to strangle them. Reading through comments, I keep wondering if "your" had officially become interchangable with "you're" and I wasn't aware it happened
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View Postpathwriter, on 03 March 2011 - 05:45 PM, said:

Also, holy shit, why does your typing never improve? Even if you were capable of being correct, you couch it in language that is thoroughly incomprehensible. I've done tech support for Chinese students who speak about 1000 words of English and it was less frustrating than trying to wade through your keyboard vomit.

But, yes, the skewed and stupid idea that anything in FFXI is subject to mathematical "diminishing returns" has been tossed around by posters on Allakhazam and BlueGartr for fucking years. How have you not yet noticed this? I once thought about arguing the point with them, then I realized: I DON'T GIVE A DAMN. It's a video game, you lunatic. If you're really that interested in knowing why you did X damage instead of Y, focus on that instead of getting into petty, retarded arguments that you'll never win because a.) you are incapable of coherent argument and b.) you're incapable of coherent English. Or just play your game and shut the fuck up. Who cares that you do 50 extra damage of whatever the hell it is when you skillchain as Scholar?

because some people want to know what to use for best performance because of all the retarded ass caps SE uses.

also this is not 50 damage, its thousands.

and no I do not go to ether forum a lot, I just started back on alla because i wanted more fucking options on that retarded ass moogle slip message. then i found other things to poke around on

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View Postrambus, on 03 March 2011 - 07:23 PM, said:

I just started back on alla because i wanted more fucking options on that retarded ass moogle slip message.


What's the answer they came up with?
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View PostWhat?, on 03 March 2011 - 07:29 PM, said:

What's the answer they came up with?

they said you used to be able to toss them with stored items but it was changed a few days later and never took the message out:
http://www.zam.com/f...68817346&page=1
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Once again I am forced to point out that your spelling errors are beginning to look contrived, let's hope you pay attention (again) and go back to looking like a retard instead of an idiot pretending to be one.
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View Postrambus, on 03 March 2011 - 07:23 PM, said:

because some people want to know what to use for best performance because of all the retarded ass caps SE uses.

You know, anecdote is legitimate in non-serious things like video games. For that matter, what prevents you from going out, doing some of your own testing, and then trying to sort out the answer from the data you generate? You're totally incompetent with English in spite of it being your mother tongue, but you claim to have some skill with mathematics (which figures, people with broken brains seem to have a habit of interacting with numbers more efficiently), yet you so often sit back and wait to parrot what someone else has said. Then when people dispute with you, you never actually go back and do any legwork, you just sit and argue and eventually make passive-aggressive bullshit threads like these.

I spent years arguing about the fundamental problems with how people valued small amounts of Haste. Rather than pout and rant about it in unintelligible moonspeak, I sat down, looked at numbers, looked at modeling methods, and set out to figure out whether I was right or not. In the long run, of course, I was right, but most people still try to pretend otherwise, though it only took the community as a whole about two or three years to finally come around to use realistic modeling instead of perfect abstractions or useless parsing. I'd hate to point out how far behind the bell curve FFXI players are from WoW players when it comes to simulation and modeling but... no, wait, I really enjoy pointing that out. Mostly because those kinds of simulations make a huge difference in WoW and have just barely more than zero effect in FFXI.

Do your own damned research and present it, Rambles. Hire a moron-to-English translator, too, so that those of us who are familiar with our mother tongue have a chance in hell of understanding it. But enough with this passive sludge of hoping someone else will come along and answer your very specific and largely irrelevant questions. Your obsession about fucking storage slips is literally the equivalent of going onto WebMD and asking why your third toenail is growing faster than your second.
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I do not think his english skills are what is lacking, his inability whatsoever to go back and at least make an attempt to proofread and edit whatever he has written is where his shortcomings lie.

I mean really? retrun? you even spelled it correctly in your post for god's sake.
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View Postpathwriter, on 03 March 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:



Do your own damned research and present it, Rambles. Hire a moron-to-English translator, too, so that those of us who are familiar with our mother tongue have a chance in hell of understanding it. But enough with this passive sludge of hoping someone else will come along and answer your very specific and largely irrelevant questions. Your obsession about fucking storage slips is literally the equivalent of going onto WebMD and asking why your third toenail is growing faster than your second.

No its NOT, SE does not reimburse at ALL even if items lost is their fault! I explained this in the other thread, i want to know what the situation is that allows the lost so i do not do it. SE does not reimburse. If it was wow i would not care cuz they actually reimburse items due to bugs.

I am going to demand 2 things when those SE forums open up, what that message means and if we are in any danger in loosing gear, or how to prevent it and why I still have not got service to unban my mule account.

I do not see what is wrong with my English to get that point across. I do not even understand what you are doing here saying i have poor English, it is fine and i cant fucking do tests if i don't have access to the gear and atmas.

I presented formula with explanation what diminishing return is, what MAB does, and what exponential return is.

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View PostArkley, on 03 March 2011 - 06:56 PM, said:

Firefox's dictionary will do you no good if you attempt to spell "Banana" with four Qs and a T.

Loled.
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View Postrambus, on 03 March 2011 - 08:20 PM, said:

i cant fucking do tests if i don't have access to the gear and atmas.

Bullshit. To figure out what you want to figure out, you already have all the tools you need. You don't need a fully upgraded Magian staff and half a dozen lousy Atmas. The simple fact is that you're not willing to put in an iota of effort for ANYTHING. Need proof? Look at the abysmal slop you consider to be "good enough" English. You can't even type "MMO," motherfucker.

Fact is, you were getting a lot of things wrong in that thread. You always do. You'll never admit you made even the slightest error, though, much less the rather huge ones you've done. You're obsessed with formulae that other people have concocted yet are unable to conceptualize how to sort out a return error on some of the most straight-forward calculations in the game. More to the point, though, rather than focus on the mathematics, you get caught up on pointless little shit in hopes that if you rant about it long enough, it'll matter. Like those damned storage slips. Hell, you even GOT your fucking answer by way of Alla (and, guess what, all of us here at KI were right for telling you that it was a non-issue) and yet you are still convinced that you need to ask Square-Enix about it. You're a crank and an illiterate and lazy lazy lazy.
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he must be using his scooby doo dictionary.
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View Postpathwriter, on 03 March 2011 - 09:28 PM, said:

Bullshit. To figure out what you want to figure out, you already have all the tools you need. You don't need a fully upgraded Magian staff and half a dozen lousy Atmas. The simple fact is that you're not willing to put in an iota of effort for ANYTHING. Need proof? Look at the abysmal slop you consider to be "good enough" English. You can't even type "MMO," motherfucker.


you need to fucking read, here is the summery:

1. confermation how SC damage works, where all the bonus came fom, do others think been confermed if you got bonus from klimafrom, and if i really got weather bonus without an obi. I was shcoked the bonus proced on that, I did not expect it but the my math reflects I got it.

2. atmas how they mix with the magian staffs, someone should me that magan staffs ADD to a bonus that is a CAP BONUS where elemental staffs do not. so yes i do need those fuckign staffs and the amtas i have nether\

3. then it was brought up by someone else's damage that an atma of elemental potancy may be effecting SC damage (something i do not have)

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Fact is, you were getting a lot of things wrong in that thread. You always do. You'll never admit you made even the slightest error, though, much less the rather huge ones you've done. You're obsessed with formulae that other people have concocted yet are unable to conceptualize how to sort out a return error on some of the most straight-forward calculations in the game. More to the point, though, rather than focus on the mathematics, you get caught up on pointless little shit in hopes that if you rant about it long enough, it'll matter. Like those damned storage slips. Hell, you even GOT your fucking answer by way of Alla (and, guess what, all of us here at KI were right for telling you that it was a non-issue) and yet you are still convinced that you need to ask Square-Enix about it. You're a crank and an illiterate and lazy lazy lazy.



name one, name ONE FUCKING STATMET i said wrong there. put up or shut up, like you called me, MOTHERFUCKER/!

not only tell me what is wrong explain why i can sit here and say xxx or yyy is wrong for no reason, thats what you are doing.

IT IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE SE WILL NOT REIMBURSE YOU IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, DO YOU REALLY WANT 1-6 years of work and SE jsut sit there and say " we are sorry for the inconvenience but our policy states no reimbursement" thats why its a fucking issue.

IM LAZY?!?! FUCXK YOU PATH!!! all you do is troll while i am here to figure out things.

really FUCK YOU MOTHTERFUCKER * can i cerse like you fuckhead?

did you even read that thread? did you get my 3 points i was trying to talk about in there? did you even understand what i was talking about? you saying you cant understand me because I do not please you how i type is lazy on your end, what said they have no problem with me SO WHAT IN THE FUCK IS YOURS????

you like being teh interent thung? you think this is funny? I am not laughing, this is not witty you piece of shit

you are lazy because you dont understand math.

you know what else is lazy? saying " your question is not an issue" instead of answering it. The ironic part is when the person asking the question fights that answer, you put more effort in fighting back then you would of if you just answered.

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I just can't understand why anyone would post a reply to Rambus anymore. Can't we just leave his threads untouched? I think if we ignore him enough he'll eventually go somewhere else.
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