[MrReinhardt]

I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Sides you think you'd really have a chance?

[Boldfinger]

pathwriter, on 23 March 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:

Should I say all females are stupid? Yeeeessss.

You should, even if it's not true. For teh lulz.

[pathwriter]

Velhart, on 23 March 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

Did I say that you did? I simply made a general statement, despite how it may of sounded.

Yes, you did. For someone who claims he doesn't want to argue with me, you certainly make a lot of argumentative comments.

Velhart, on 23 March 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

I won't attempt to argue with you beyond here Path, because I have read several of your posts to conclude that trying to argue with you is pointless. Kind of a "I have to be right all the time" kind of thing that makes you keep going till the other person simply gets tired of it and leaves it alone, and then no one wins. If I attempt to argue with you, that is exactly where it is going to end up. You can make your usual long posts if you want, I really don't care. Sometimes better to leave some stuff alone.

You know, there are far more graceful ways of saying, "Fuck it, I know I'm going to lose."

Although, I really do need to point out that my interest is very rarely in "winning." I'm trying to coax a real argument out of people. You know, the sort of thing where you present ideas, support them with facts, and bolster them with effective rhetorical technique? Ever heard of it? No, I doubt you have. I already know that I'm right, anyhow, but it would be refreshing if you were capable of developing a coherent counterpoint to explain why it should be considered laudable to want to stick your dick in that. Even you recognize the absurdity of that notion when put to the question, though, so you keep running around trying to distract from it. Today's Sinfest seems apt:

[Chriscoffey]

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Spacecraft don't carry fuel gauges because they don't work in zero gravity.

This quote comes from an article about the spacecraft stardust ship's life coming to an end. The mere premise of explaining this concept should have been explained thoroughly in basic science. I am just wondering considering the basis of the past comments in this topic if the education system has fallen so far(American education) that everything needs explained even after elementary math and science classes have been taken? I am just using this in relation to this topic considering the girl's Polit-Sci majoring and her rhetoric comments against the asian culture posting video's being asinine to the recent education system in place today. I guess I'm just asking for some enlightenment from the younger KI users what this shit is about or what is going on recently.

Quote article

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[Vigilous]

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You can throw your hot dog down my hallway any day of the week for making me spit my beer out all over my monitor.

Oh, you...

[Kay]

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The thing that used to piss me off most was the realization that adulthood doesn't necessarily equate to maturity.

Exactly what bothers me now, I look forward to the day when I am numb to it (or everyone grows out of it, though I fear I'll be dead long before such heaven on earth).

It's funny, all these people saying they want someone that can hold a conversation... yet I haven't met a single person that could do that for me. Ugh I'll stop there, nobody wants to read that.

This post has been edited by Kay: 24 March 2011 - 10:13 PM

[Vigilous]

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It's funny, all these people saying they want someone that can hold a conversation... yet I haven't met a single person that could do that for me. Ugh I'll stop there, nobody wants to read that.

I think people have no idea what they're talking about when they say that. According to that frame of mind, I could hold a conversation with the big-tittied twat in the video, but would it be one that I would want? No. I could also hold a conversation with a raging cock stain - like Glenn Beck.

The apt description should be, "I want to be with someone of like mind and who can speak intelligently."

Or even worse, these very same people think that a conversation should last longer than an hour to have any kind of meaning.

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[pathwriter]

Vigilous, on 25 March 2011 - 12:07 AM, said:

I could hold a conversation with the big-tittied twat in the video

Honestly, I'm not sure you could. I'm right in thinking you're married, right? So you don't get the same kind of interaction with single folks these days.

Kay is pretty much spot on. Too often when I'm talking to someone single, I am holding up both ends of the conversation. Their full contribution are a few responses to my questions, generally fewer than ten words in total. If you can sum up all of your hobbies, your education interests, your dog's personality, or your political beliefs in under a dozen words, you probably have the brains of a bucket of library paste. This seriously happens all the time, too. What's really weird is that people have apparently forgotten how to talk about themselves. You know the stereotype that if you ask a woman how her day was, she'll start nattering for the next three hours without any external input or stimulus? Girls today don't seem to be able to do that. Boys are even worse, but that should come as no surprise.

I really don't know what caused it, but it seems that a lot of people in their teens and twenties (I'm guessing as regards teenagers, by the way, do tell me if I'm wrong) seem to think that any conversation that does not flow naturally is not a conversation. If you have an awkward pause or something, that's it, they check out and start fucking around on their smartphone telling all their friends about how they never meet anyone interesting and smart. They're blissfully unaware of how stultifyingly boring they are, too, else they'd manage to figure out why they always seem to date idiots. The chick in this video probably cobbled together her 3 minutes of ranting over the course of several days because I can honestly count on one hand the number of people under 25 I've met who can speak continuously about anything for more than 90 seconds.

What's sad is that it is a function of the tech revolution. "Kids these days" are all relying on texting to communicate and, as such, they value speed and brevity. Ask a simple question, get a simple answer: it's their generational motto. When asked a complex question, they've spent so many years failing to respond to anything with more than a two-word comment (something between "That's great" and "That's gay") that they completely freeze up. Those of us just a few years older who grew up on the internet are not nearly so shackled, but more and more of us are married and, thus, don't see the ignorance that technology hath wrought. What really scared me a couple years ago was when my mother, who is approaching 60, started texting me in full txt-speek. I called her on my telephone (does anyone remember that's what telephones do?) and screamed at her to use real English when speaking to me. Suddenly her messages became ones with content again, but it powerfully demonstrated the brain-dulling effect of texting.

[treelo]

Well since you asked...

I woke up around 2am, yeah, 2am. That's what happens when you go to bed at 3pm, funny how the world works eh? I played Eve for a bit, spending about an hour staring at my skill training with a look of complete mystification etched firmly across my face. The whole thing is mind-bendingly deep on a scale I hadn't imagined possible, my current training plan is about 7 days long (Evemon, the app for managing your training is programmed to issue a warning if your plan is less than 12 months old, that should tell you everything you need to know.) Besides that, the game itself is great. I found out there was a player-run university to teach new players and stuck in an app with them, which got accepted within hours since I'm so totally awesome at lying to people. The hordes of slack jawed yokels babbling about how they've been in line for an interview for days, weeks, or even months ignored my comment about how mine came three hours after submitting my application though I knew that they were really pouring as much malice in my general direction as possible. Turns out some chumps are at war with them though, so I had to wait and met this rather nice chap who has spent the past few days helping me out. I just joined his corp instead for a while, I'm partially employed as some form of futuristic post-battle looter, doing the equivalent of pulling teeth for cash from the corpses of my enemies. Extremely profitable, I may consider stealing teeth in my downtime to cover the subscription fee. A few missions later we talked about cats for an hour, and he called it a night. Having only woken up a few hours earlier I was around until the daily maint began (seriously, wtf is up with that?) and spent the 30 minutes of free time I had being domestic and cleaning myself up. Noticing the nice weather I rolled myself a fat one, donned headphones and sauntered through the fields near my house listening to some old school Monster Magnet, for some reason warm weather instills an unquenchable urge to listen to them.

With reality sated for the time being I went back to poring over guides and skill trees in an effort to appear less like a complete noob to those who might be watching my heavily laden Industrial pottering aimlessly through space with a belly full of goodies ready for the market. My new CEO logged on, accused me of lying about being new for the second time in as many days, and disappeared to take care of some stuff. I listened to my friend's two-hour slot on his uni's radio station, read some brief article about the soldiers being honoured by the Queen for bravery. Turns out one of them is a Gurkha, who being a natural unstoppable badass held off 15 men ambushing his checkpoint. After some delving I heard a brief account of his defence, which I couldn't help but smile at as I tried to imagine the crazy bastard hurling a machinegun bi-pod at the nearest enemy when his gun jammed. WW2 vets, Gurkhas, Kim Jong Il, and Josh Homme; those are the only people I respect in the world. Another hour or two on Eve, running crappy missions for even crappier rewards in comparison to the "huge" sum of money I picked up last night. I have just finished watching a bonkers travel documentary about North Korea that left me feeling completely out of sync with reality. Everyone knows North Korea is a crazy, crazy place, but to see it from the inside was a strange experience in itself. From karaoke machines preprogrammed with nationalist songs (and Anarchy in the UK believe it or not) to the International Friendship Exhibition it was a psychosis-inducing trip down the dictatorial rabbit hole ending with 120,000 gymnasts recreating the Korean Rebellion in techi-colour for the benefit of perhaps twenty people. Kim didn't show. They were threatened with imprisonment multiple times, the most serious being for obstructing the visage of Glorious Leader himself while filming. A hilarious section on an "American" spyboat where they were forced to watch propaganda telling them what utter bastards they are, followed shortly by hundreds of Koreans streaming off the boat giving them the most vile looks ever. It's well worth a watch. Now? I'm writing this, about to hit up Eve once more until I collapse from exhaustion or inebriation. The dog will be walked, choons will be played.

You probably didn't make it this far, so I'm free to just write random bullshit and make it look like a well thought out post, which in a way I suppose it was. I mean I had to contemplate just how much text would be required before I could waffle on aimlessly without reproach. When all you've done all day is play games and smoke weed even two paragraphs is stretching it, but I learned a few things I guess. Oh, that reminds me of the show I watched about a nuclear waste dump in Finland. 500m underground, blasted from solid rock and taking roughly a hundred years to complete it will house... an unknown quantity of nuclear waste for 100,000 years. The entrance will then be covered in concrete, as will various other important junctions along the way, and the whole thing will be completely buried to make it look like nothing ever happened. They expect people to be living above it soon after completion, which is a bit fucking stupid if you ask me. My initial thoughts were "they don't seem too bothered about this waste" as everyone involved was absolutely certain nothing could go wrong. It got rather interesting when they discussed whether or not to mark the site somehow though as they stopped talking about physics and concrete and moved on to pyramids. That's right, pyramids. You see, they're so convinced this plan will work that they're planning for what will happen when the next ice age hits and kills 90% of the world. Apparently the UN has "markers" they can produce that look exactly like obelisks decked out in all manner of squiggly languages and mysterious symbols that will presumably have no meaning to those who survive the icy apocalypse. It really was quite intriguing when you think about it, as the parallels between modern archaeology and potential future discoveries in the field were remarkable. I'm still convinced the whole thing will blow up in their face though. With all that said, the documentary itself was shot terribly, and the narration was awful. The concept behind it was sound enough though.

What next? Two days of sunny weather! Apparently England spends roughly 70-80% of the time under cloud cover. I guess that explains my bubbly personality eh? But hey, for all you know I could be some dim-witted ogre with a dictionary and access to thesaurus.com. I could wear milk-bottle glasses and drink nothing but the milk from those bottles. I don't, but I do eat a lot of fish. Haddock mostly, doing my part for the environment I suppose. I caught five minutes of Trawlermen, watched a bunch of grumbling blokes tossing perfectly fine fish overboard because they "weren't allowed" to catch it. I lost all sympathy for their plight. If it's on the boat, it's too late to throw the fucking thing back. There was a fish with another fish in its mouth though, presumably with its own death imminent it decided to shatter that last aquatic taboo and turn to cannibalism. I guess fish are people too huh? I'll consider that next time I'm cooking some. Any suggestions for a name I could give it? Braddock perhaps, I think he's from a movie, though I used to play with a Braddock in my first LS. Endlessly grinding Eye clusters and rerunning RotZ for ungrateful fucks. The good old days eh? They were I suppose, before the ego took over. You'll laugh, but it was Summoner that did it. It was the time when everyone wanted one and I got into KoN, where everyone is an egotistical fuck who despises the rest of the server. So I just did what I could to fit in. Turns out I was better than they were at it.

You're probably wondering how long this could go on for. I'll warn you, it's a long time. I watched all of Stephen Hawking's Universe the other day, I could talk about that. I won't, his robotic voice has strange hypnotic powers over me. As a result I find myself inexorably drawn towards any show he is on, but find myself largely unable to recall what was being talked about beyond "Black holes and shit." You'd probably call that stupidity, but I know quite a bit about the subject. Because space is fucking awesome. I got a telescope last christmas, though the light pollution here is a fucking joke. According to this useless spellchecker in Opera christmas isn't a real word. Wonder if the guy who wrote it was jewish... Hanukkah. Yup. He fucking was... Christmas. hannukah. Oh very clever, I'll let them off. It's only not a real word if you don't capitalise it. Though the fucking thing is set to American English, so I'm still blighted by unsightly red lines. You're speaking a fucking dialect, get over it already. Oh, for those of you that don't know, Gurkhas are Indians who fought for the British during the conquest of India. Of course, when we tried to invade their homeland they gave us such a fucking pasting that we assured them we'd stop fighting and leave them alone. Being bloodthirsty killing machines akin to 19th century rambos (ramboes? rambii? Makes you wonder what the plural for Rambus is. Retards probably...) they quickly figured out they'd see a lot of action fighting for us and they've been kicking ass for the Queen since. There was a lot of fuss over their pensions a few years back, and their ability to settle here as citizens, but we're cool sometimes and they're allowed to stay now. Presumably because nobody fucks with the Gurkhas, not even Tony Blair. He wasn't so bad really, I quite liked the guy. I mean, I hated his guts but he was a great politician. Which is why I can't stand Cameron and Clegg. They suck at their jobs, and they're spineless shits too. I mean for christ's sake, the French fired first in Libya (not counting Ghadaffi and his army of linguistic clones, though I suppose Al Qa... I mean the rebels did really). I had a good laugh about that though, stating they only downed an enemy plane by accidentally igniting its fuel lines as they did a 180 and hit the afterburner. Fags (not the path kind, the smokes kind) have gone up drastically in price; about 50p for a "cheap" brand and supposedly less for the outrageously priced trendy brands. One day we'll get a chain-smoking alcoholic as a Chancellor who will get caught claiming for super strength cider on this expenses and be forced to lower taxes or face a firing squad.

Speaking of politics. Referendum for electoral changes coming up too! Ironically it'll probably be the first time I vote for anything. I don't like politicians and I hate political parties even more. Anything that pisses them off is worth five minutes of my time. Besides, our polling booth is in the fucking pub car park, not like I can miss it. So go go alternate vote, assuming they even listen to what we say. I'm waiting eagerly for the pro-FPTP leaflets to come flooding through my letterbox. Like the BNP leaflet I saved, not because I hate blacks, the artwork was just hilarious. Nick Griffith (with extra jowliness photoshopped on) beside a picture of Churchill. Classic. I'm told he was an alcoholic, and he never slept. Maybe I missed my call, we could have won in Afghanistan and Iraq if I were in charge. I mean, I've read Sun Tzu and Machiavelli. And I played Total War for like... ages. More experience than these fucks have. I thought about donning a hoodie during the election campaign, since hugging a hoodie was a big part of winning over the younger voters (yeah, right...) It would have presented me with the perfect opportunity to nut some unsuspecting smug bastard ready to steal my taxes to clean his duck pond. How long is it now? (That's what she said!) Couple of paragraphs, not bad. Wonder how many people got this far, gimme a wave if you're still here. What should be talk about next? Pepsi or Coke? Coke or Speed? Maybe the rat scene in American Psycho, though you've got to have read the book to know what I'm talking about. Finished reading it again the other day, reminded me I might genuinely be a sociopath. Bale was good in the movie though, which is why I liked him as Bruce Wayne. Though his Batman voice is annoying as fuck. He's no John Connor either. Badass enough, sure. But he ain't that screechy little shit we all grew to love all those years ago. New Alien movie in the works apparently, based on the ship they find in the first film. Good ol' Ridley is working on it so I'm hopeful. At least it won't be another Alien 3, or that francified piece of shit Resurrection. It's a shame they had to blight the series like that, and most the time I just pretend 3 didn't happen. Like AVP, that was fucking terrible. Requiem wasn't too bad though, and Predators was actually okay. Then again, I expected it to be dire so anything moderately passable as entertainment would suffice.

I guess I'll leave it at that and save all this just in case I've broken KI. At least it isn't for excessive quote-mining this time, that limit always annoyed me. Bye!

This post has been edited by treelo: 25 March 2011 - 04:25 PM

[pathwriter]

Were I not exhausted right now, I'd actually be interested to read that. Mostly because you aren't the typical female in that you actually have real thoughts running around behind that stream-of-consciousness monologue. I realize that the greater problem with all human beings everywhere is that most of them are conditioned to never have a thought more complex than, "I want a beer right now," but it's not that hard to talk about your day in an interesting manner.

[Keylime]

Kay, on 24 March 2011 - 10:12 PM, said:

Exactly what bothers me now, I look forward to the day when I am numb to it (or everyone grows out of it, though I fear I'll be dead long before such heaven on earth).

It's funny, all these people saying they want someone that can hold a conversation... yet I haven't met a single person that could do that for me. Ugh I'll stop there, nobody wants to read that.

I coped by learning to speak sarcasm as a second language. For the most part no one can tell when I'm serious or not, unless I really ham it up. Being a snide prick is one thing, but it's all the better when everyone things you are more of a retard than them.

pathwriter, on 25 March 2011 - 02:29 PM, said:

I really don't know what caused it, but it seems that a lot of people in their teens and twenties (I'm guessing as regards teenagers, by the way, do tell me if I'm wrong) seem to think that any conversation that does not flow naturally is not a conversation. If you have an awkward pause or something, that's it, they check out and start fucking around on their smartphone telling all their friends about how they never meet anyone interesting and smart. They're blissfully unaware of how stultifyingly boring they are, too, else they'd manage to figure out why they always seem to date idiots. The chick in this video probably cobbled together her 3 minutes of ranting over the course of several days because I can honestly count on one hand the number of people under 25 I've met who can speak continuously about anything for more than 90 seconds.

This frustrates me greatly. I love to strike up conversations with people, even over inane bullshit. But for the most part I either have to lead the conversation on, or they say a few sentences and trail off. Sad to say, but the art of conversation is dead.



Also Treelo, some EVE advice that I wished I had known earlier. Train all your first tier learning skills to rank 5 as fast as possible and your second tier learning skills to at least 4 quickly after that. Getting those up ASAP will shave an ungodly amount of time off every other skill's training time. I think it took me a straight month, maybe less to do that. And max out your low class ships and weapons skills before moving to the next bracket. That will save you from massive head aches later on if you jumped to battleship really fast. A good tackler was always a very welcome sight in the alliance I was in. If you know, how is the Providence region of 0.0 sec? I use to stomp around there years ago when it was controlled by LFA and CVA before a CVA exec got hacked and the CVA bank disappeared. That caused a massive destabilization in the region.

[treelo]

Actually they dropped all the Learning skills a while back. The whole character creation has been overhauled as well. As far as I'm aware every character starts out with essentially the same set of skills now (50,000SP) and you just go from there. Obviously different weapon sets for different races, but I think that's the only difference. Plodding along in my Cormorant at the moment, waiting for a bunch of skills to finish until I can move to a Cruiser with some degree of competence. My account is only a few days old, so I've not really done anything considerably risky yet, and I'm steering clear of nullsec for a while yet. Jumped into a pretty small PvE oriented corp just to pick up some cash and flesh out my skills for a while but I'll be making a nuisance of myself soon enough. No idea how long ago you played, but I doubt you'd recognise the first few hours, it's changed drastically from what I remember of my last trial. The new character creator looks great too, they even added a system somewhat similar to besieged/campaign from what I've heard of it. Oh, and planetary interaction too. It's nice finally having something I can sink my teeth into for once rather than just mindlessly grinding for days. I think I've spent about as much time reading about the game as I have actually playing it.

This should answer your question though.

This post has been edited by treelo: 26 March 2011 - 12:23 AM

[Banter]

Vigilous, on 23 March 2011 - 07:51 AM, said:

At least you're self-aware of some of your short comings.



I was actually implying that she seems to be the kind of spoiled bitch that sleeps with black men to get back at daddy.

Oh fuck, the no u argument. It's no surprise why you're such a well respected poster around here!

[Vigilous]

There was no, "no you" to be had. I just thought you were speaking from experience.

pathwriter, on 25 March 2011 - 02:29 PM, said:

Honestly, I'm not sure you could. I'm right in thinking you're married, right? So you don't get the same kind of interaction with single folks these days.

Kay is pretty much spot on. Too often when I'm talking to someone single, I am holding up both ends of the conversation. Their full contribution are a few responses to my questions, generally fewer than ten words in total. If you can sum up all of your hobbies, your education interests, your dog's personality, or your political beliefs in under a dozen words, you probably have the brains of a bucket of library paste. This seriously happens all the time, too. What's really weird is that people have apparently forgotten how to talk about themselves. You know the stereotype that if you ask a woman how her day was, she'll start nattering for the next three hours without any external input or stimulus? Girls today don't seem to be able to do that. Boys are even worse, but that should come as no surprise.

I really don't know what caused it, but it seems that a lot of people in their teens and twenties (I'm guessing as regards teenagers, by the way, do tell me if I'm wrong) seem to think that any conversation that does not flow naturally is not a conversation. If you have an awkward pause or something, that's it, they check out and start fucking around on their smartphone telling all their friends about how they never meet anyone interesting and smart. They're blissfully unaware of how stultifyingly boring they are, too, else they'd manage to figure out why they always seem to date idiots. The chick in this video probably cobbled together her 3 minutes of ranting over the course of several days because I can honestly count on one hand the number of people under 25 I've met who can speak continuously about anything for more than 90 seconds.

What's sad is that it is a function of the tech revolution. "Kids these days" are all relying on texting to communicate and, as such, they value speed and brevity. Ask a simple question, get a simple answer: it's their generational motto. When asked a complex question, they've spent so many years failing to respond to anything with more than a two-word comment (something between "That's great" and "That's gay") that they completely freeze up. Those of us just a few years older who grew up on the internet are not nearly so shackled, but more and more of us are married and, thus, don't see the ignorance that technology hath wrought. What really scared me a couple years ago was when my mother, who is approaching 60, started texting me in full txt-speek. I called her on my telephone (does anyone remember that's what telephones do?) and screamed at her to use real English when speaking to me. Suddenly her messages became ones with content again, but it powerfully demonstrated the brain-dulling effect of texting.

Path, do you mean to tell me that I had to preface that sentence by saying it was a hypothetical? Other than that, I see where you're coming from, but I wasn't advocating the current decline in speech and conversation. I think I maybe jumped the gun in assuming that the kind of conversation that was being talking about was that romantic notion kind. You know, where some idiot thinks that a conversation with a potential significant other should last until the wee hours of the morning?

At any rate, yeah, people should weep for language. I just heard that Webster's was adding ♥, to the dictionary.

[Keylime]

treelo, on 26 March 2011 - 12:21 AM, said:

Actually they dropped all the Learning skills a while back. The whole character creation has been overhauled as well. As far as I'm aware every character starts out with essentially the same set of skills now (50,000SP) and you just go from there. Obviously different weapon sets for different races, but I think that's the only difference. Plodding along in my Cormorant at the moment, waiting for a bunch of skills to finish until I can move to a Cruiser with some degree of competence. My account is only a few days old, so I've not really done anything considerably risky yet, and I'm steering clear of nullsec for a while yet. Jumped into a pretty small PvE oriented corp just to pick up some cash and flesh out my skills for a while but I'll be making a nuisance of myself soon enough. No idea how long ago you played, but I doubt you'd recognise the first few hours, it's changed drastically from what I remember of my last trial. The new character creator looks great too, they even added a system somewhat similar to besieged/campaign from what I've heard of it. Oh, and planetary interaction too. It's nice finally having something I can sink my teeth into for once rather than just mindlessly grinding for days. I think I've spent about as much time reading about the game as I have actually playing it.

This should answer your question though.

I quit in late autumn, early winter of '08; I think this was before EVE redid the sovereignty system. But it's nice to see my former alliance is still around, and still surrounded by AAA.

[Banter]

Vigilous, on 26 March 2011 - 07:47 PM, said:

There was no, "no you" to be had. I just thought you were speaking from experience.



Path, do you mean to tell me that I had to preface that sentence by saying it was a hypothetical? Other than that, I see where you're coming from, but I wasn't advocating the current decline in speech and conversation. I think I maybe jumped the gun in assuming that the kind of conversation that was being talking about was that romantic notion kind. You know, where some idiot thinks that a conversation with a potential significant other should last until the wee hours of the morning?

At any rate, yeah, people should weep for language. I just heard that Webster's was adding ♥, to the dictionary.

King of logic too!

[Vigilous]

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King of logic too!

Now who's being childish?

[Banter]

Vigilous, on 26 March 2011 - 10:12 PM, said:

Now who's being childish?

You obviously don't know a shit of what you're talking about.