[Vigilous]

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Believe it or not, the scrawny kid who thinks he's a Street Fighter is the resident bully. The big kid had had enough and did his best impersonation of Zangief Haggar.

UPDATE!

The Zangief Kid

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This post has been edited by Vigilous: 16 March 2011 - 07:38 PM

[pathwriter]

I saw this a few days ago. I'm really not sure how I feel about it. The little prick deserved a comeuppance, but he could've easily been paralyzed or killed by that attack. He brought it on himself (why else would his buddies have been filming other than this being a premeditated session of bullying), but you can see the way he is barely able to walk after. Would you cheer if we find out he has irreparable damage at age 12 or 13? I dunno. I certainly don't condone bullying (caveat: I was never actively bullied... picked on from time to time, but nothing worse than anyone else endures), but punishing a retarded kid hopped up on molestation by his father and burgeoning testosterone, even if he is about 70 lbs. dripping wet, for the rest of his life... I just can't feel right about that.

I certainly do not appreciate, though, that the scrawny asshole and his friends were unscathed by school authorities last I knew. The big kid got suspended. Should see if I can find an update on his status.

[Velhart]

Big kid got suspended for 4 days, the bully got 22 days. If I was the big kid, I would spend those four days being proud of myself despite what the school or parents said to me.

I don't prefer to go deep into the matter with this. This was simply a kid who got pushed into rage mode and just annihilated the other kid. I tell you though, not logical to pick a fight with someone twice your height, weight, and bigger bone structure overall. I lol'ed when the little kid thought he was fast and swift.

And lol to the Street Fighter one. That kid totally got Zangief'ed.

This post has been edited by Velhart: 16 March 2011 - 08:35 PM

[Vigilous]

Both of them were suspended. As far as what if the kid had been seriously hurt, would you be this conflicted had the kid stuck his head in a lion's open mouth? Granted, the kid being picked on could have just shoved him off or even walked away. However, this wasn't a random encounter, and the bully had in fact been tormenting Kid Zangief and others at the school for some time now. This was well known throughout the school, and administrators had failed to act on their "zero tolerance policy." Does this make what Kid Zangief did okay? No. And he is getting his punishment as he should.

[Littlebender]

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[treelo]

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[Keylime]

pathwriter, on 16 March 2011 - 08:02 PM, said:

I saw this a few days ago. I'm really not sure how I feel about it. The little prick deserved a comeuppance, but he could've easily been paralyzed or killed by that attack. He brought it on himself (why else would his buddies have been filming other than this being a premeditated session of bullying), but you can see the way he is barely able to walk after. Would you cheer if we find out he has irreparable damage at age 12 or 13? I dunno. I certainly don't condone bullying (caveat: I was never actively bullied... picked on from time to time, but nothing worse than anyone else endures), but punishing a retarded kid hopped up on molestation by his father and burgeoning testosterone, even if he is about 70 lbs. dripping wet, for the rest of his life... I just can't feel right about that.

I certainly do not appreciate, though, that the scrawny asshole and his friends were unscathed by school authorities last I knew. The big kid got suspended. Should see if I can find an update on his status.

Cheer? I'd jump for fucking joy if that little shit were paralyzed. And as someone who was tormented by bullies as a child, I applaud that chubby kid for having more backbone than I did at his age.

[renzuko]

i watched tmz last night and they talked about it, and some of the guys were mad that the fat kid got a 4 day suspencion, and one of the chicks was like "well what if the skinny kid was hurt, he could have dropped him wrong" and harvey pointed out the kid isnt a professional fighter, he doesnt know how to throw people around without hurting him, and the chick was like "oh come on, that was totally a wrestling move, he obviously watches it alot"

obviously the dumbass doesnt understand that from watching something that is highly staged that involves throwing people doesnt mean that you automatically know how to do the shit without hurting people -.-;;

[kuvo]

The little kid deserved it. I understand he could have gotten badly hurt but he did bring it on himself. I'm glad the other kid that has been picked on finally had enough and did what he did. I hope this sent a message to other people around that school to stop messing with him and stop being bullys at all cause this could happen to anyone if they are pushed to the limit.

I don't think the kid being bullied should have been suspended, maybe a few days of detention, cause now what that school is sending a message to everyone at that school is that it is NOT ok to protect yourself because if you do WE will punish you. I also hope the little kid learned his lesson from this and stop being an asshole to other kids because it truly could have been much much worse.

[CerGoltana]

Keylime, on 17 March 2011 - 04:11 AM, said:

Cheer? I'd jump for fucking joy if that little shit were paralyzed. And as someone who was tormented by bullies as a child, I applaud that chubby kid for having more backbone than I did at his age.

This 100x over. I'm going to also say Renzuko, I don't understand your point... Path, I totally understand your concerns, but you have to be serious here.

If this kid was bullying a kid 1) bigger than him and 2) meaner looking than him, he ought to expect being SPD'd into the ground. Sure, it may be noble for us to say "Oh but what if the kid got hurt", but the truth is, the victim was only trying to stop the bully from the tormenting. Would he have gotten slammed if he was not bullied? Of course not. Was the bully basically digging his own grave by poking at the kid who may have appeared timid but was clearly twice his size? Hell yes.

If the kid would have incurred a broken limb, unfortunately, that would have been his fault. He put himself in that situation and forced the victim to retaliate. Have you ever tried to corner a squirrel? Normally, they run from humans, but if you got a squirrel into a corner do you have any idea what that squirrel would do? Claw your eyes the fuck out worse than Vega's Barcelona Wall Dive. This scenario is no different. If you play with fire, you're gonna get burned. Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk, and most importantly, don't pick on kids bigger than you.

Oh, and the school did the right thing for suspending him, mostly because it wasn't about him fighting, but about them sending a message. Half of America had seen this video. Just think of the criticism and scrutiny this school would have received if after having this incident go viral they allowed one of the students back in school unpunished. They have to abide by their rules, but realistically, perception is everything.

[renzuko]

lol...someone started a fight with me and i got more days then he did, cuz when the vice principal finally got there i had him pinned against the wall that had pointy parts and i was headbutting him against it >.>

[CerGoltana]

Its a shame how the school systems defend these bullies and punish the reactions. They are simply applying Newton's Law of Action<-->Reaction, lol.

But seriously, now you kind of have to understand why things like school shootings/Columbine happen. Not because those kids were straight up goth/punk/weirdos, but because the fucking administrators who are put in a position to protect the rights of every student turn a blind eye to this shit. And then when things go horribly wrong, they jet in and stomp a horrible punishment, thereby making 2 wrongs. I do not respect bullies. I say if they can push out the threats and assaults, they can take a few blows on their head.

[Velhart]

How the "school" looks at it, if you are going by the book, the kid is suppose to notify someone who works at the school that he is being bullied and then an adult would take care of the situation. He could of just easily shoved him away, walked off, and notified an adult that someone is trying to hurt him. But he decided to do what I actually like to call "The actual right way to do it" and defended himself. I would rather be known as the kid who Zangief'ed his bully and just take the punishment than tell on them and just endure more torment. I think not defending yourself and getting an adult in would just bring in bigger problems in the long run.

Wish I could say I knew what the kid was feeling at that moment, never had a bully before. oo;

[CerGoltana]

That doesn't work, though. You can't look at this video and think that this is the first time these kids have targetted this gentle giant. The problem is, where were the teachers? The hall monitors? Hell, even this girl is sitting here watching... nobody even thought to get a teacher or admin involved. I don't care what the textbook way of handling this scenario is because nobody ever comes to the aid of someone who is really being bullied.

Coming into school in dread of being picked on and laughed at among your peers, that's rough. Pushing his bully away would have amounted to him putting a big sign on his back that says "I'm Fat". It wouldn't have did anything but make him a bigger target. Walking away does nothing. People need to stop being noble and be real for once. The only real way to handle these issues is to either stop them before they happen [Principle, Teachers, Admins, Other students], or body slam a mothafucka until he realizes that I'm done playing, and the next time you'll land right on your head. followed by a People's Elbow in your ribcage.

[Velhart]

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That doesn't work, though. You can't look at this video and think that this is the first time these kids have targetted this gentle giant. The problem is, where were the teachers? The hall monitors? Hell, even this girl is sitting here watching... nobody even thought to get a teacher or admin involved. I don't care what the textbook way of handling this scenario is because nobody ever comes to the aid of someone who is really being bullied.

You act like adults are perfect beings. Parents and Teachers cannot 100% control everything a child does. Shit is going to happen, and when it does, you will just have to deal with the situation. Second, these are children, majority of kids want to see a fight, most don't care to even consider getting an adult. I know I sure as hell wouldn't.

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Coming into school in dread of being picked on and laughed at among your peers, that's rough. Pushing his bully away would have amounted to him putting a big sign on his back that says "I'm Fat". It wouldn't have did anything but make him a bigger target. Walking away does nothing. People need to stop being noble and be real for once. The only real way to handle these issues is to either stop them before they happen [Principle, Teachers, Admins, Other students], or body slam a mothafucka until he realizes that I'm done playing, and the next time you'll land right on your head. followed by a People's Elbow in your ribcage.

Like I said, parents and teachers cannot keep control of a child 100% of the time. It is stupid to think you can. Body slaming that kid is probably the best thing he could of done in that situation. If I had to pick between taking down the kid, get my punishment, and don't have to endure being bullied anymore, or walk with my tail between my legs, notify an adult, and just endure a lot more torment. I think the choice is obviously clear. Adults have these programs out to try to prevent kids from becoming bullies, but it really stupid to be honest. The only way to prevent bullying is by you "the victim" to stand up and show him you are not to be fucked with.

And I wouldn't say "I say this because children could get really hurt.". So what? Like someone said, you play with fire, you are going to get burned.

[pathwriter]

I get that some people desperately want retribution against their childhood bullies. Hell, I'm willing to even concede that a little bastard is probably a big bastard now and abusing his own kids or raping Wall Street or whatever these twisted things do. But I personally cannot compromise my ethics just because I'm feeling spiteful, afraid, or some other chemical reaction that overrides normal response.

I had to call the cops a couple weeks ago as I'd heard sounds of a fight outside my house. Turned out it was a drug dealer and user, the latter of whom knifed the dealer in an attempt to make off with both the crack and the money. When one of the cops came over to interview me about what I'd seen or heard to result in calling them, he smugly said something about "instant justice" in reference to someone being knifed. It was my commitment to non-violence that prevented me clocking him for being happy that someone got stabbed. And he was a cop, so punching him wouldn't have been in my best interests, anyhow.

I know someone is going to say that all the drug dealers in the world need a bullet to the brain stem. That's certainly the easy response to take. Kill everyone who has ever done something you don't like and the net result will be a better universe. It isn't true, though, and what makes you an arbiter of who should live and who should die, who should walk and who should suffer? And you'll base it on where they are right now, too. You'd "euthanize" that fellow here in Ohio who last year was living on the streets scraping what money he could for drugs but who is now a radio announcer lauded back and forth across the internet for his voice. At least the religious idea of judgment has always been post-mortem so that Ahura Mazda or Jehovah or Anubis or whomever can have a proper picture of a person's life and value.



As for the efficacy of school systems, it is non-existent. We have generations of teachers who have accepted bullying as a fact of life and no amount of "zero tolerance" policies handed down by administrators and school boards will do a damned thing until you force it into the skulls of the faculty that bullying is not acceptable. There are lots of excuses given, but the simple fact is that not only are parents and teachers imperfect, but they're almost 100% useless when it comes to properly dealing with this sort of thing.

But I'm mostly extrapolating from what I've read. As I said, I was never bullied. I attended Catholic schools and even when I really expected to get beaten up (such as when I came out of the closet), I was unscathed. Hell, the worst gossip I endured through most of my growing up years was the suggestion that I had a small harem since I hung around with a bunch of girls at lunch. So, yeah, there are school systems that somehow managed to quash the bullying problem. Go figure, it's the private religious school system. Maybe I'll stop bagging on them so much now that I've thought about it.

[Seigrith]

Vigilous, on 16 March 2011 - 07:31 PM, said:

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Believe it or not, the scrawny kid who thinks he's a Street Fighter is the resident bully. The big kid had had enough and did his best impersonation of Zangief Haggar.

UPDATE!

The Zangief Kid

OMFGROFLMFGDAOCOPTER

Everyone else calls him Zangief, you call him Haggar, but clearly he is most like Hugo.

[Keylime]

pathwriter, on 17 March 2011 - 10:08 AM, said:

I get that some people desperately want retribution against their childhood bullies. Hell, I'm willing to even concede that a little bastard is probably a big bastard now and abusing his own kids or raping Wall Street or whatever these twisted things do. But I personally cannot compromise my ethics just because I'm feeling spiteful, afraid, or some other chemical reaction that overrides normal response.

I had to call the cops a couple weeks ago as I'd heard sounds of a fight outside my house. Turned out it was a drug dealer and user, the latter of whom knifed the dealer in an attempt to make off with both the crack and the money. When one of the cops came over to interview me about what I'd seen or heard to result in calling them, he smugly said something about "instant justice" in reference to someone being knifed. It was my commitment to non-violence that prevented me clocking him for being happy that someone got stabbed. And he was a cop, so punching him wouldn't have been in my best interests, anyhow.

I know someone is going to say that all the drug dealers in the world need a bullet to the brain stem. That's certainly the easy response to take. Kill everyone who has ever done something you don't like and the net result will be a better universe. It isn't true, though, and what makes you an arbiter of who should live and who should die, who should walk and who should suffer? And you'll base it on where they are right now, too. You'd "euthanize" that fellow here in Ohio who last year was living on the streets scraping what money he could for drugs but who is now a radio announcer lauded back and forth across the internet for his voice. At least the religious idea of judgment has always been post-mortem so that Ahura Mazda or Jehovah or Anubis or whomever can have a proper picture of a person's life and value.



As for the efficacy of school systems, it is non-existent. We have generations of teachers who have accepted bullying as a fact of life and no amount of "zero tolerance" policies handed down by administrators and school boards will do a damned thing until you force it into the skulls of the faculty that bullying is not acceptable. There are lots of excuses given, but the simple fact is that not only are parents and teachers imperfect, but they're almost 100% useless when it comes to properly dealing with this sort of thing.

But I'm mostly extrapolating from what I've read. As I said, I was never bullied. I attended Catholic schools and even when I really expected to get beaten up (such as when I came out of the closet), I was unscathed. Hell, the worst gossip I endured through most of my growing up years was the suggestion that I had a small harem since I hung around with a bunch of girls at lunch. So, yeah, there are school systems that somehow managed to quash the bullying problem. Go figure, it's the private religious school system. Maybe I'll stop bagging on them so much now that I've thought about it.

My reaction to the little snot getting slammed is not one based purely on my desire to vicariously deal punishment. The big guy was being attacked, there may have been many ways to diffuse the situation, such as walking away, notifying an authority figure, or fighting back. Those all would have worked in the short run, but look at the bigger picture. If he has walked away, nothing would have changed and he would be bullied another day. If he notified an authority figure like a school official the punk would have got in trouble, but it is doubt it would deter him for more than a short period of time, if at all. In my opinion, fighting back was the best course of action to not only stop the immediate attack, but to prevent possible future incidence as well.

I by no means am a proponent of violence, but acting in self defense is as natural an instinct as as breathing. Act to diffuse the situation, nothing more and if that results in injury or death then so be it. The one time I actually fought back when I was being bullied resulted in my attacker and I both receiving a weeks worth of in school suspension, which tantamounts to way too much time to read or practice origami. But aside from that, I was bullied very heavily in middle school. So much so that I was suicidal at many points and suffered from never ending stress sicknesses like migraines, insomnia and constant stomach aches. Every day my mom would call the school admin, and every day they would say they had to see it to act. Even my doctor wrote frequent letters to the school informing them of the severe effect the bullying was having on me. The occurred until my doctor pulled me from school. Do I wish retribution on those that wronged me in the past, not at all.

[CerGoltana]

AKA You gotta Burn to Learn, you Reap what you Sow, dont Bit off more than you can Chew, what goes around comes around, etc. This isn't about rejoicing over someone who is suffering, its more of a lesson to be learned here. I do not find joy in watching someone being the victim of violence, no more so than I enjoy watching someone being in a car accident after they are unsafely and inattentively driving. At first you may reason may "That driver got what he deserved". While that may be true, nobody finds joy in someone receiving serious harm to themselves, unless they are sadists.

You'll get no sympathy points from me by speeding and getting into an accident or by picking on a bully and getting your ass slammed on the pavement. You brought that upon yourself. But don't for a second start throwing that "What if he was seriously hurt/killed" crap around. If you continue in a foolish course of action, you better assume the risks, come what may. Just don't expect anybody to be in your corner defending your ass when it was you who decided to poke a stick at a bee hive...

[Vigilous]

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Everyone else calls him Zangief, you call him Haggar, but clearly he is most like Hugo.

Actually, my comment was more of a slight against the idiots who want Zangief (or a Zangief skin for Haggar) in MvC3.