[Metticus]

So this elderly man who fought in WWII ended up being an illegal alien. Now lets hear the hypocrisy of why this man should stay in the states. Look it's fine if you would want him to stay in America and keep his benefits. If you need to stop bitching about illegal aliens.
http://news.yahoo.co...wpphu-post-form

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Ninety-five-year-old Leeland Davidson discovered recently that he's not considered a U.S. citizen, despite living nearly 100 years in the country and serving in the U.S. Navy during WWII.

Davidson, from Centralia, Washington, told KOMO News that he discovered he wasn't a U.S. citizen when he was turned down for an enhanced driver's license he needed for a trip to Canada to visit relatives.

"We always figured because he was born to U.S. parents he's automatically a U.S. citizen," said Davidson's daughter, Rose Schoolcraft.

Davidson was born in British Columbia in 1916, but his parents didn't register the birth with the U.S. government to ensure they knew he was a citizen. He checked up on his citizenship before joining the Navy and was told by an inspector at the U.S. Department of Labor Immigration and Naturalization Service he had nothing to worry about. Now he worries that he won't be able to prove his citizenship, because his parents were born in Iowa before local governments started keeping records of birth certificates in 1880. "I want it squared away before I pass away," he says.

Schoolcraft says they tried to dissuade him from pursuing the matter. Employees at the local passport office scared them, telling her father "If he pursued it, (he could) possibly be deported or [be] at risk of losing Social Security."

"We keep telling him, leave it alone, leave it alone, and he won't, like a dog with a bone," Schoolcraft told the Centralia Chronicle. But Davidson says: "I want to get it done before I die." He also still wants to visit his friends and family in Canada. Sen Patty Murray's office is helping him with his application.

This post has been edited by Metticus: 25 March 2011 - 06:51 AM

[Banter]

And on that day, not a fuck was given.

[Metticus]

Banter, on 25 March 2011 - 07:28 AM, said:

And on that day, not a fuck was given.

dude you always say that

[treelo]

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Schoolcraft says they tried to dissuade him from pursuing the matter. Employees at the local passport office scared them, telling her father "If he pursued it, (he could) possibly be deported or [be] at risk of losing Social Security."

Since when was stating facts a scare tactic? I understand it is mainly a matter of pride, but as far as I can see he hasn't suffered at all from not being a "citizen." A shame it would come to something like this, but his parents are at fault here, nobody else.

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He checked up on his citizenship before joining the Navy and was told by an inspector at the U.S. Department of Labor Immigration and Naturalization Service he had nothing to worry about.

I had to laugh, I'm pretty sure they told everyone the same thing during WW2. Unless they were Japanese or German. Hell, when they invaded France a number of Polish units ran around with trucks full of British uniforms accepting anyone who wanted to switch sides. As a dwindling section of society I actually have some respect for, I hope he gets what he wants, but who cares really?

[Banter]

Metticus, on 25 March 2011 - 07:30 AM, said:

dude you always say that

Stop posting retarded shit then.

[pathwriter]

Deport him. It'd be a great symbolic victory for the bloody-minded right to feel ashamed about and maybe finally stop nattering on about people entering this country.

Yes, I know I'm dreaming.

[Notacka]

He's a WWII vet though. He should get some rights from that.

[treelo]

Notacka, on 27 March 2011 - 12:42 PM, said:

He's a WWII vet though. He should get some rights from that.

A lot of WW2 vets got the death sentence. Or imprisonment.

[Keylime]

treelo, on 27 March 2011 - 05:55 PM, said:

A lot of WW2 vets got the death sentence. Or imprisonment.

Didn't most of them fight for the Axis though?

[treelo]

Your point being?

[Keylime]

treelo, on 27 March 2011 - 11:49 PM, said:

Your point being?

The hammer gets dropped on the losers, not the winners.

[pathwriter]

There wouldn't have been a war without the participation of Axis veterans, though. They deserve as much credit as anyone else.

[treelo]

Keylime, on 28 March 2011 - 08:41 AM, said:

The hammer gets dropped on the losers, not the winners.

Tell that to the guys who fought in Vietnam. I guess your ability to spot bait is slipping.

Sorry, I forgot. You "won."

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[pathwriter]

treelo, on 28 March 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

Tell that to the guys who fought in Vietnam.

You mean the ones who were treated like crap and have been derided since they got home in spite of the fact that many were forced into military service rather than volunteering? I mean, it's nice that you're trying to make some kind of point, but it would help if you recognize that the experience of Vietnam veterans is nothing remotely like the ones who returned from saving your tea-sucking forebears.

[Notacka]

Vietnam vets got fucked. I'll always respect them though they went through hell, and didn't get much back in return. The point of the subject though is the 95 year old man that wants his US rights. I mean he fought for the US army, I guess back then it didn't matter much where you were from as long as you were on the Allied side.

[Keylime]

treelo, on 28 March 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

I guess your ability to spot bait is slipping.

Slipping, or just not giving a shit. I'll let you decide.

[Arkley]

pathwriter, on 28 March 2011 - 07:13 PM, said:

You mean the ones who were treated like crap and have been derided since they got home in spite of the fact that many were forced into military service rather than volunteering? I mean, it's nice that you're trying to make some kind of point, but it would help if you recognize that the experience of Vietnam veterans is nothing remotely like the ones who returned from saving your tea-sucking forebears.

Forget this "your point is invalid" and "we saved you" shit. You should've just brought up Suez. That would've been much more amusing.

[pathwriter]

History is one of my weakest points, so I honestly have no idea what you're referencing, Arkley, except that it probably refers to a canal.

[Arkley]

Egypt nationalised the Suez Canal, Britain & France did not appreciate this. Britain, France & Israel invaded and successfully recaptured the canal. The USA then threatened to dump holdings of British debt - ruining the British economy - unless Britain withdrew, thereby exposing to all the world that the first global superpower could no longer act without the permission of its former colonies.

Edited because I can't write for shit

This post has been edited by Arkley: 29 March 2011 - 09:13 PM