[Liquid_snake005]

Well guess what Boo are whatever, you have to be level 70+ to get fenrir because it takes a full party of them to beat him which means no one lower than 70+ will be dragged along for a fenrir fight. :wall:wall:wall:wall:wall
SO NOW to be valued are usefull again you gotta have fenrir, which means taking summoner or another job to 70+ to beat him, the stupidity of Summoner as a job never ends ((

[Discordian]

This argument about fame is a little low. Everyone needs fame, not just the summoner but the melees that want to fight the summon as well get the fame, Norg fame is easily gotten if you level a new sub in windurst for a week. Just do the repeatable Yaguddo Bead quest and you'll gain plenty of fame and back it up with Zinc Ore in Bastok and the lower level ninja scroll quests in Norg. Everyone has to go through getting fame.

[Liquid_snake005]

ok discordian, point proven, but guess what, the other jobs are more usefull and dont need to HAVE fame for avatars because its not something they need for there job, hmmm but summoners have no choice. correct me if im wrong

[Liquid_snake005]

oh but ninja,wht mage and a few others need fame for some of there stuff to but but they dont have to kill avatars for there teleport spells and abilitys

[Smurv]

/em grabs some popcorn and begins watching the flames.