Sorry to
put this in Dark Knights forum but had to go somewhere =). Ok, heres your chance guys. Dark
Knights, say why you think DRK is better than SAM, SAM, say why you think SAM is better than
DRK. Don't start a flame forum just state what are the ups and downs of each .. which looks
cooler etc. Go get em.
Dark Knight vs. Samurai
#2
Posted 31 March 2004 - 07:48 AM
in
my opinion i say sam is better then drk because of our versitility to make a skill chain in
the blink of an eye and with anyone obviosly this is more true at higher lvls as you have
more weapon skills to choose from however the drk does deal more dmg but whats better more
dmg per hits or more skill chains w/ MB?
my opinion i say sam is better then drk because of our versitility to make a skill chain in
the blink of an eye and with anyone obviosly this is more true at higher lvls as you have
more weapon skills to choose from however the drk does deal more dmg but whats better more
dmg per hits or more skill chains w/ MB?
#3
Posted 31 March 2004 - 07:53 AM
Now my
turn, I say DRK, but by small margin. More damage overall, better skills, strongest WS is
stronger than strongest WS of great katana. I have respect for every job though so i love
SAM. SAM do have those WS abilities that make them really good. Pretty respectable but I
always will love the DRK's.
turn, I say DRK, but by small margin. More damage overall, better skills, strongest WS is
stronger than strongest WS of great katana. I have respect for every job though so i love
SAM. SAM do have those WS abilities that make them really good. Pretty respectable but I
always will love the DRK's.
#4
Posted 31 March 2004 - 07:53 AM
In
PvP the SAM would currently lose to the DRK... Where DRK does huge damage each hit the SAM
misses 50% (why do you think they get extra TP?) not a lot of knowledge on either though,,
DRK= not a class id use and i quit SAM after lv2 cos an even match fried my Great Katana
using bum......
PvP the SAM would currently lose to the DRK... Where DRK does huge damage each hit the SAM
misses 50% (why do you think they get extra TP?) not a lot of knowledge on either though,,
DRK= not a class id use and i quit SAM after lv2 cos an even match fried my Great Katana
using bum......
#5
Posted 31 March 2004 - 07:58 AM
[
quote]demix :
strongest WS is stronger than strongest WS of great katana. [/
quote]
ok actually Tachi: Kasha samurai 250 skill is only out done in dmg by rng
weapon skills in dmg but other then that yes you do more dmg not argueing
that^^
chista: about the missing that's what dex and accuracy gear is for yes it
isn't cheap but once you hit lvl 40 a lot of accuracy + items become available such as
sniper rings, jujitsu gi ect...
quote]demix :
strongest WS is stronger than strongest WS of great katana. [/
quote]
ok actually Tachi: Kasha samurai 250 skill is only out done in dmg by rng
weapon skills in dmg but other then that yes you do more dmg not argueing
that^^
chista: about the missing that's what dex and accuracy gear is for yes it
isn't cheap but once you hit lvl 40 a lot of accuracy + items become available such as
sniper rings, jujitsu gi ect...
#6
Posted 31 March 2004 - 10:13 AM
[
quote]
ok actually Tachi: Kasha samurai 250 skill is only out done in dmg by rng
weapon skills in dmg but other then that yes you do more dmg not argueing that^^
[/
quote]
Not true.
quote]
ok actually Tachi: Kasha samurai 250 skill is only out done in dmg by rng
weapon skills in dmg but other then that yes you do more dmg not argueing that^^
[/
quote]
Not true.
#7
Posted 31 March 2004 - 10:43 AM
Truly
A samurai only shows its true capability with a spear/polarm, and i believe at that point
they would be virtually even with the sam having penta thrust, and more accuracy since it is
harder to hit with a great katana
A samurai only shows its true capability with a spear/polarm, and i believe at that point
they would be virtually even with the sam having penta thrust, and more accuracy since it is
harder to hit with a great katana
#9
Posted 31 March 2004 - 11:01 AM
very untrue Mexico a sam with a polearm is basically useless to a PT for now the sam lacks
his most important ability: the ability to make a skill chain with anyone and I use both
polearm and Great Katana and can tell you from my experience the polearm is not more
accurate then the Great katana and i'm stacked with as much dex and accuracy+ equipment i
can get
his most important ability: the ability to make a skill chain with anyone and I use both
polearm and Great Katana and can tell you from my experience the polearm is not more
accurate then the Great katana and i'm stacked with as much dex and accuracy+ equipment i
can get
#10
Posted 01 April 2004 - 04:33 AM
Ive been
in alot of parties with a number of sams, and eversince i hit lvl 50 ive out damaged them in
everyway possible. today i was with one of my sam friends and i was doing double the amout
of damage per hit, and i was also getting my tp up just as fast as im if not faster
sometimes. he even had a life belt for better accracy which im still lackiing, so that is my
reason why dark knights are better over all for damage dealing, but i must say, the sams 2
hour kicks ass
in alot of parties with a number of sams, and eversince i hit lvl 50 ive out damaged them in
everyway possible. today i was with one of my sam friends and i was doing double the amout
of damage per hit, and i was also getting my tp up just as fast as im if not faster
sometimes. he even had a life belt for better accracy which im still lackiing, so that is my
reason why dark knights are better over all for damage dealing, but i must say, the sams 2
hour kicks ass
#11
Posted 01 April 2004 - 04:36 AM
I like
DRK better as a class, but SAMs better as players/people. Mostly because any decent Samurai
player is absoloutely insane about renkei/skill chaining, and for some reason I find it
hilarious. Get two samurai in your party and watch them talk about the most effecient/best
renkei the entire time.
DRK better as a class, but SAMs better as players/people. Mostly because any decent Samurai
player is absoloutely insane about renkei/skill chaining, and for some reason I find it
hilarious. Get two samurai in your party and watch them talk about the most effecient/best
renkei the entire time.
#12
Posted 01 April 2004 - 04:42 AM
it
is very true that per hit drk will out dmg sam but from my expierence the only ppl that have
out gained me with TP are mnk/sam and then i'm gaining at about the same rate but usually
faster but i don't PT with very many drks that ofter mostly another sam and a mnk or thf
is very true that per hit drk will out dmg sam but from my expierence the only ppl that have
out gained me with TP are mnk/sam and then i'm gaining at about the same rate but usually
faster but i don't PT with very many drks that ofter mostly another sam and a mnk or thf
#13
Posted 01 April 2004 - 04:44 AM
As long
as the DRK has enough accuracy, DRK will always outdamage SAM at my level... this much is
true. However, DRK can't skillchain nearly as well, or as often... and DRK are -horrible-
fuidama partners. Think about it this way: What is better? A SAM helping a Thief do 2
Distortion skillchains in a single fight with Enpi -> Dancing Edge (Enpi doing at least 150,
more often I get near 200, Dancing Edge doing 700-900, the renkei itself doing 300-500, and
BLM using Blizzaga II or Water III for a magic burst of about 400-600... multiple all that
damage by 2) or the Dark Knight using Guillotine once in the fight for maybe... 500 damage
once? ^^;
Like switch said... we're just alot more versatile. I'd have to say I
like SAM better.
as the DRK has enough accuracy, DRK will always outdamage SAM at my level... this much is
true. However, DRK can't skillchain nearly as well, or as often... and DRK are -horrible-
fuidama partners. Think about it this way: What is better? A SAM helping a Thief do 2
Distortion skillchains in a single fight with Enpi -> Dancing Edge (Enpi doing at least 150,
more often I get near 200, Dancing Edge doing 700-900, the renkei itself doing 300-500, and
BLM using Blizzaga II or Water III for a magic burst of about 400-600... multiple all that
damage by 2) or the Dark Knight using Guillotine once in the fight for maybe... 500 damage
once? ^^;
Like switch said... we're just alot more versatile. I'd have to say I
like SAM better.
#14
Posted 01 April 2004 - 05:39 AM
Kayoto
your just mad that your char isn't as strong as it coult be. DRK > SAM but sam are still
cool. Sorry I was mad when i wrote what I put before. I actually think SAM are just as cool
as DRK .. but in the long run there are 2 kinds of parties, those that go with a SAM and
MNK and a few others to make good skillchains on every mob .. and those that put a DRG and a
DRK and just pump damage.
your just mad that your char isn't as strong as it coult be. DRK > SAM but sam are still
cool. Sorry I was mad when i wrote what I put before. I actually think SAM are just as cool
as DRK .. but in the long run there are 2 kinds of parties, those that go with a SAM and
MNK and a few others to make good skillchains on every mob .. and those that put a DRG and a
DRK and just pump damage.
#15
Posted 01 April 2004 - 05:43 AM
demix no one is denying that drk is stronger and personally i don't care that everyone out
dmgs me sam is like the rdm for melee we make the big things happen and keep the high dmg
flowing so you major dmg dealers can do your job better and the mages can nuke for more dmg
we make skill chains happen and no we aren't strong and if you ask most sams we are quite
content doing are job of making renkai ask a rdm who is the better nuker him or the blm its
the blm but the rdm brings refresh and dispel to the table making him optimal for mages to
keep going on for chain 4-5 just as sam makes the skill chains to be able to kill a mob
faster so you can also get those chain 4-5
dmgs me sam is like the rdm for melee we make the big things happen and keep the high dmg
flowing so you major dmg dealers can do your job better and the mages can nuke for more dmg
we make skill chains happen and no we aren't strong and if you ask most sams we are quite
content doing are job of making renkai ask a rdm who is the better nuker him or the blm its
the blm but the rdm brings refresh and dispel to the table making him optimal for mages to
keep going on for chain 4-5 just as sam makes the skill chains to be able to kill a mob
faster so you can also get those chain 4-5
#16
Posted 01 April 2004 - 05:58 AM
That
is true. Sam are very versatile when it coming to skill chaining together with others. For
the most part I've noticed DRK's chain mainly consist of darkness....for obvious reasons.
If I have another DRK in my party we can do some nice Renkai, not near as nice as what two
SAM could do but, I can magic burst off my own renkai ^^
is true. Sam are very versatile when it coming to skill chaining together with others. For
the most part I've noticed DRK's chain mainly consist of darkness....for obvious reasons.
If I have another DRK in my party we can do some nice Renkai, not near as nice as what two
SAM could do but, I can magic burst off my own renkai ^^
#17
Posted 02 April 2004 - 07:37 AM
[
quote]demix :
SAM, say why you think DRK is better than DRK. [/quote]
LOL i
dont know i think drk is better than drk
quote]demix :
SAM, say why you think DRK is better than DRK. [/quote]
LOL i
dont know i think drk is better than drk
#18
Posted 02 April 2004 - 07:39 AM
ok
lesson im a drk and yeah drk do more damage but a lot of drk need to stfu and chill with
your egos damn it id much rather have a sam in my party because most drk always talk to
damn much
lesson im a drk and yeah drk do more damage but a lot of drk need to stfu and chill with
your egos damn it id much rather have a sam in my party because most drk always talk to
damn much
#19
Posted 02 April 2004 - 08:31 AM
okokok i
had to post on this one i have played as both classes and i have found that a drk cnt take
the dmg a sam cn such as a tank dies and now it is a sam that steps up to take the dmg
drks= more dmg less pts at least on my server bc of the amout of em
sam=
renki machine better def
ane ways that is my points so have at it all
had to post on this one i have played as both classes and i have found that a drk cnt take
the dmg a sam cn such as a tank dies and now it is a sam that steps up to take the dmg
drks= more dmg less pts at least on my server bc of the amout of em
sam=
renki machine better def
ane ways that is my points so have at it all
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