[Pringo]

I'm a lvl33Drk/16mnk, I'm subbing monk because it gives the extra HP boost which means more life for soul eater, boost, and dodge. But I was thinking whether or not to go level up my theif to sub onto my DRK. Since I have a week or so of not leveling, since the blm in my static party has gone for holiday, would any of you suggest to go level up my thief or my samurai (unlocked already).

[Erocdrah]

I'd say level the THF.

30-50 = MNK Sub
50-60 = WAR Sub
60+ = THF Sub

I'm only LvL 45 but from my experience in the game thats what I hear is good for DRK subs. You could probably throw SAM in as a Sub for 30-60, but after that word is THF is the way to go.

[Slayer]

Thief is the better sub mostly. With sneak attack weapon skills can really put on the hurt, mixed with last resort etc.

[Bamce]

is the extra hp boost+30 sec of souleater damage really better than 3 min of beserk? and not only that on say exp2 or 3 u can throw in beserk for the next 2 mobs w/ eater on the 3-4th to do more damage and get higher exp chains, /war>>>>/monk

[demix]

Ask any level 75 DRK. Best sub lvl 1-60 = WAR. Best sub 60+ is THF. Argue all you want but this is just the best way to go as a damage dealer. Thf CAN work earlier but WAR just wins.

[Damnation]

There is a misconception that after 60+, thief sub does the most damage.

The reason why thief is *wanted* as a sub is for hate control. War sub deals the most damage, up to 75. If your pt has a thief already, there is very little reason to sub thief.

[Nohmaan]

Monk sub = bad. best for tank subjobs like warrior (countereattack dodge etc.)

War sub = Berserk, DOUBLE ATTACK, higher attack power (this one is the best)

THF sub = sneak attack, trick attack.... thats about all for that really.

[Pringo]

i though SAM was the general choice after lvl 60

[Nohmaan]

Maybe used to be, we'll see after how they adjust the TP regain. But when you can sneak/trick guillotine...

[Pringo]

I really thought that SAM was the way to go after 60 since you get Meditate. And I heard that 1-60 was either WAR of THF. Hmm..interesting... I started leveling my thf already. It's lvl 11. But it's rather hard getting into a party =(. I guess people just don't understand the hardaches of being a THF be you get sneak attack. Well, if that's the case. I'll probably level my thf all they way to lvl37 instead of lvl30

[zafron]

Level them all, and let the person who invites you into an xp group decide.

[Onorgul]

From what I understand from higher level people, Trick Attack saves a Dark Knight's ass. Since DRK is all about offense, they take hits very poorly, hence why they don't tank. However, because they're so utterly strong, they can frequently steal hate if they use Last Resort and Souleater and whatnot. Unlike Monks who can put up Boost and rely on Counterattack and fairly high evasion (not to mention Defender if Warrior is subbed), Dark Knights have nothing to save them if they take the aggro. That is why Thief is important and recommended after level 60. About the only time a DRK could get away with not subbing Thief would be when there is a real Thief in the party.

As for crappy White Mages in Valkurm, I'm getting pretty sick of them. It's one reason why I haven't brought my Warrior up the several levels it so desperately needs.

[Gilthanes]

At 70 a Drk/War would have Warcry too. That plus a Pld/War in your Pt and Warcry will be readily available at all times in a party

[Treciont]

From my experience THF is the best sub hands down 65+. When you start to do Lv3 Renkei with Cross Reaper if you dont trick onto some one there is a good chance you will take a lot of hits. i pt with 2 Drk's on a regular basis and i found that a DRG is perfect for being tricked onto. reason is, when sneak/trick cross reaper lands for 1,500 and Darkness matches for 1,500 there is no way i can hold hate as a pld. so with a Drg being tricked onto all they have to do is hit high jump or super jump and the mob turns back to me.

also most of the 66+ drk on my server us great sword with thf sub'd. Spinning slash with sneak/trick is amazing damage. and you have more options with Lv3 Renkei doing Light with GS and Darkness with Scythe.

[Kosmos]

demix :
Ask any level 75 DRK. Best sub lvl 1-60 = WAR. Best sub 60+ is THF. Argue all you want but this is just the best way to go as a damage dealer. Thf CAN work earlier but WAR just wins.

60+, War > Thf in damage dealing.

Thf > War if you want to dishout WS 'safely.'

Trust me, double attack > sneak attack any day in damage. ^^ Just that trick attack is good for the hate management.