[Leathlord]

Nice. Btw congrats on 60. Unfortunatly I do not have the time you have to play this game for the amount of gil you have.

[Yughottserved]

Ayn :No, what's worse is when you get the fancy HQ animation on a moblin helm or mail and think "Gold! Score!" but it's a brass. I had that happen to me three times in a row earlier.

Eventually... if you craft enough, you can tell the difference between HQ1, HQ2, and HQ3 by the sound and animation it makes >_>

[Navia]

Yeah I didn't get much sleep this weekend or last night
I'm a goldsmithing addict, I was like 'oh damn I have to stop crafting' because I had to go fight Tiamat yesterday lol.

My rough estimate trying to get to 67 is about 11mil :o_o if i stick with hydro patas, assuming I average a .1 skillup every 7 synths over the entire course (i'm about 1 in 4.5 synths right now, accounting for the slowdown as i approach the cap)
If I can sustain 500k a night income mining 5-6 hours and manage to get some decent gp items per day maaaybe I can get my apron in 4 weeks (doing glasses after).

I've got 124 kindreds seals and 314 beast seals I need to use to feed goldsmithing after hydro patas

[Leathlord]

Btw as a side note don't use my costs without selling as a referendum. I basically did like like lvl 0-20 10 syths a level and then added 10 syths every 20 levels so for 40-60 it would be 30 syths a level .

[Ayn]

Eventually... if you craft enough, you can tell the difference between HQ1, HQ2, and HQ3 by the sound and animation it makes >_>

Given all the silent oil I make, I can usually tell it with water crystals; sometimes I get it mixed up with lightning crystals, however. Then again, I'm paying more attention to tells / LS chat after I hit the "OK" button.

[Navia]

I'm getting pretty good at predicting when stuff is going to break - it seems like the synthing animation lasts a fraction of a second longer before it transitions to the crystal break animation. If you're really impatient you can watch your inventory and see it change before the break/nq/hq animation appears also.
I got some unreal skillups last night on hydro patas (24 synths = +.8 ) even blowing up about 7 synths entirely, hopefully my luck keeps up.

[Emrosie]

Leathlord - great guide

Navia - thanks for sharing your thoughts

I too have become addicted to Goldsmithing. I have WW 66, Alchemy 57, Bonecraft 50, Cooking 51, but none of those crafts was I this addicted.

Currently I'm at lvl 47, thanks for the gold beastcoin route here, I have a little bit of gil to be able to buy a few stacks and synth into ingots. On my server after doing the synths to make a stack of gold ingots I lose about 90,000, but that's a whole hell of a lot better then the damn silver bangels.

I have gotten into the desything mode, to the point where I've stacked the moghouse with the lightning element strength. Does anyone else out there have this? Finally, at what level do you suggest desythning for myrill ingots?

[Yughottserved]

Navia :
I'm getting pretty good at predicting when stuff is going to break - it seems like the synthing animation lasts a fraction of a second longer before it transitions to the crystal break animation. If you're really impatient you can watch your inventory and see it change before the break/nq/hq animation appears also.
I got some unreal skillups last night on hydro patas (24 synths = +.8 ) even blowing up about 7 synths entirely, hopefully my luck keeps up.

i get really superstitious about keeping my inventory open during synthesis, I think it makes me break more >_>

btw whoever decided that you can't view your mogsafe during synthesis needs to die. I spend a lot of time on my knees (yeah, i went there) and seeing what kind of space or materials I have left would be nice >_>

[Navia]

Funny thing happened last night desynthing a moblin helm, everyone got a huge lag spike (R0 , most people dropped) and I had just hit combine.
I stand there about 1minute hoping the connection comes back, I have my inventory and see a gold ingot appear in it . 10 seconds more passes then I kneel and do the hq desynth animation

I don't use lightning energy in my moghouse, even though I have desynthesis moghancement - I refuse to fiddle with the secret element present given my success making under skillcap hq's on gs items/skillup rate and desynth results :crazy (hint: its not fire/wind/earth)

[Calima]

I have Goldsmithing 63.3+1

On what day/direction you make for skillup with fire/wind?

I have now in Mog:House : 102 Light & 102 Desynthesis ... got never any skillup from Mog:Fire.

[Navia]

I don't bother with pointing myself in a particular direction really. All my under cap HQ's end up happening in some direction completely unrelated to the current 'beliefs' out there.
If i get a skilling streak i don't move, if i get a run of no skillups (5-6 synths), i stop, wait until the next day if its later than 20:00 or so , then pick some random direction and keep going - it works for me
I just finished another synth run on patas 30 synths got me over 1skill, I ran out of patas ingredient, .1 shy of getting 63.
Finding 2 bonecrafters willing to make patas for me for free if i provide all materials because they get skillups on it is a lifesaver, you need literally a couple hundred of these damn things made if you go 60-67 on these :O_o .

Had crap luck on rocks tonight, everytime I did a black rock it hq1'd. all my blue/green rocks hq2'd :wall good thing i never pay more than guild price for any rocks.

[Dethsbane]

Ahhhh yer running away Navia! I'm 61.5 now but doing it really really slowly... I synth every 10 days and xp my mule in between... last run I did 40 synths of Platinum Nuggets for 1.3 skill ups total... next run mebbe this weekend =/

[Aurik]

I am making bone patas for skill ups in bonecrafting right now. I have some saved up trying to sell cause they sell to NPC for nothing. I wish I could find some goldsmithers on Cerberus that would buy em in bulk like you do Navia. Any takers?

[Leathlord]

I find that normal stones are far easier than the black and white ones to HQ. I've made like 10 spinels and in the same amount of rocks ive made 1 deathstone and 1 angelstone. So that's about 900k ^^.

[`MbS`]

O_o hmm i've only made an emerald out of idon'tknowhowmanyrocks -_______-

[Calima]

Aurik :
I am making bone patas for skill ups in bonecrafting right now. I have some saved up trying to sell cause they sell to NPC for nothing. I wish I could find some goldsmithers on Cerberus that would buy em in bulk like you do Navia. Any takers?

Wish you were on Bismark... i need alot Bone Patas;they sell for 6-10 k and go real fast away.

[Navia]

Dethsbane :
Ahhhh yer running away Navia! I'm 61.5 now but doing it really really slowly... I synth every 10 days and xp my mule in between... last run I did 40 synths of Platinum Nuggets for 1.3 skill ups total... next run mebbe this weekend =/

Yeah i'm skilling quick because all I do is mine/synth/AH camp every night, only tearing myself away to go help the LS kill gods/hnm. I really want to make things like a cursed cuirass -1 for our PLDs and stuff
I'm not looking to level another job, xping and gearing another job is a serious time/gil suck away from goldsmithing
I have pretty much everything I want for ninja, so its pretty easy to avoid spending my profits on ninja gear and concentrate on skilling gs.

[Leathlord]

Anyone know where to get a mining map of oldtown? I thought mining sucked from gilsellers but Navia has made me decide to go mining again. I stopped mining when gilsellers first appeared in Gusgen.

[Navia]

After running out of mining picks last night before logging I killed a couple goblin rodman's and a Oldton chest key dropped - I believe I just need to find a chest to get the map.
Seriously a map isn't needed at all to find your way around this place or remember the 8 mining points.
Hitting 63 goldsmithing finally got me alittle bit of a payoff, with advanced support and the new moon this morning I whipped up about 20 hq versions of the level 14 stat rings with well over a 25% hq rate Saving all those nq rocks on a mule was worth it, I barely but a dent in my supply though lol
I desynthed the few nq's I got and ended up with a stack of silver ingots - the income from rings will come in handy sustaining my skillup runs.

[Ayn]

I have pretty much everything I want for ninja, so its pretty easy to avoid spending my profits on ninja gear and concentrate on skilling gs.

Still have a few things to buy for my Monk..but crafting's so much more fun. ..Seeing skill up messages make me all tingly inside.

I finally started GS too; the mythril beastcoin route, then mythril ore, then earrings, then rings. Debating if I should do the bangles synth / desynth deal until 48-49, or not. All I need is 55..all I need is 55..::Mutter, mutter::