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Dragoons in ballista: You ask, I'll answer.

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User is offline   urbanmyth 

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[blue]Ive decided to start my own topic regarding ballista strategies, questions, ect. If you want any info at all, post, and ill respond within 12 hours.[/blue]

Im a ballista whore..

please state the sub jobs you will be using, so i can be a little more spefic ^^.

Ballista Vid Recap so far:


[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs [orange]Kenjix[/orange]
DRG/SAM (Hume) vs DRG/SAM (Elvaan)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/1964533/UrbvsKenjixwin.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs [red]Cetra[/red]
DRG/SAM (hume) vs WAR/NIN (hume)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/1964937/urbvscetra.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs [orange]Kenjix[/orange]
DRG/SAM (Hume) vs WAR/SAM (Elvaan)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/1980367/UrbvsWar.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs [sea]Yokai[/sea]
DRG/SAM (Hume) vs DRG/WAR (Galka)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/1943824/UrbvsYok_win.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs [grey]Jubeii[/grey]
DRG/SAM (Hume) vs SAM/RNG (Elvaan)
Uncapped

http://rapidshare.de/files/2163997/60_cap_solo.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs [blue]Uzzi[/blue]
DRG/SAM (Hume) vs MNK/WAR (Hume)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/2218616/uzzivsurb.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs Nytro
DRG/SAM (Hume) vs RNG/NIN (Hume)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/2260690/nytrovsurban.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs [red]Khaile[/red]
DRG/WHM (Hume) vs THF/NIN - (Elvaan)(merit points)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/3562953/UrbvsThf.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs [sea]Vaxtra[/sea]
DRG/WHM (Hume)vs NIN/WAR - (Elvaan)(merit points)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/3564104/urbvsnin.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] vs [sea]Vaxtra[/sea]
DRG/SAM (Hume) vs RNG/NIN - (Elvaan)(post update sleep.gif, merits)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/3861393/UrbvsVaxtra_rng.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green]Vs [red]Abbadon[/red] -
DRG/WAR vs MNK/SAM - (merits)
60 cap

http://rapidshare.de/files/8766974/Beat_Ab...nally..wmv.html

[grey]Darkhell[/grey] and [green]Urbanmyth[/green] VS [sea]Abbadon[/sea] and [red]Awtan[/red] (Deathdealers feature 2vs2) (merits)

http://rapidshare.de/files/4185352/2vs2_0001.wmv.html

[green]Urbanmyth[/green] VS [sea]Ethillin[/sea]
60 cap, No subs
DRG vs THF
http://rapidshare.de/files/5285578/eth_0001.wmv.html


[green]Urbanmyth [/green]vs [red]The RMT Duo[/red] [red]New[/red]
DRG/SAM vs THF/NIN and NIN/WAR
60 cap

http://files.filefront.com/UrbanmythvsRMTw...;/fileinfo.html


BALLISTA ROYALE



Deathdealers Vs Bladepact.

http://files.filefront.com/Ballista_Royale...;/fileinfo.html


Deathdealers Vs Dreamers.

http://files.filefront.com/royale_2wmv/;43...;/fileinfo.html

Deathdealers Vs Omen.

http://files.filefront.com/Royale3wmv/;435...;/fileinfo.html


Deathdealers Vs ApocoplysePrime
Fenrir vs Diabolos

http://files.filefront.com/Royale_4wmv/;44...;/fileinfo.html
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Question: What type of armor should I use when doing Ballista?

Should I try to get alot of +EVA , high defense type armor or stick to +attack and +STR equip? Also sorry if I didn't see it before but what type of strategy would you advise when going up against a MNK or SAM?

MNK's high HP and SAM's strong ws's and higher def make me stray away from them during ( this is in 40 cap, i'm nab and can't do 50 cap ; ; )
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sure man, what sub will you be using?
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nin/blm... my blm can eat them up. i take 105 damage as a drg on the last nin /blm that did this and killed me fast. see my death pic in last forum ; ; cap is 40 nin/blm probems i can see having a problem in the future as well
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urbanmyth :
sure man, what sub will you be using?


Forgot about that, i mostly use /war, sometimes /whm if i can get my hands on a revitilzer.
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aight, heres the gear you could use, not so bad cost wise.

Head: Use the Iron mask here, or, if you have money, emp hairpin
Neck: Spike Necklace (+1 version)
Hands: Custom Hume Gloves M
Body: Iron scale mail
Legs: Iron leggings
Feet: Custom Hume Boots or Iron boots
Rings: Best STR rings you can buy, or, VIT. DO NOT USE SNIPERS >Back: Nomads Mantle
Ammo: Happy Egg
Earrings: Beetle Earring +1
Belt: Brave Belt

[blue]Aight, with the gear down pat, heres strategies for both using /war.[/blue]

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[sea]Taking down Monk.[/sea]
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Monk will be most likely subbing war, if not, nin. Monks rely on their high STR, VIT, and Quick punches. As you engage, save jumps and berserk, provoke him (wont allow use of job abilities such as chakara). Hit him about 5 time, and take your hits too. you should both be about at 60% TP, depending on hit/miss ratio. at this point, berserk, jump, hit him once, high jump, hit once more. you will be about 20 or so TP ahead of him, due to jumps. Use your TP (double thrust) and kill berserk. He should be either dead or one hit away (maybe two). Watch for boost, when he uses boost, a TP attack will follow (most likely combo). If he manages to catch you off gaurd with this (i.e. You might not have killed berserk), then you might get your ass handed to you. You should have him dead before he gets the chance to TP you, if you both fought fairly and no items or two hours where used.

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[red]Taking down Samurai.[/red]
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Sam rely on quick TP and Weapon skill kills. Might be a tad harder than monks, maybe not. a Samurai will most likely again sub warrior, if not nin (seems too many cowards sub nin now and days.) Voke him so he cant meditate from the start, or third eye. pound away, but dont use serk or jumps just yet. Once your voke wears off, hes gonna third eye it, and your going to miss an attack, giving him a definate TP advantage. He will save up till he gets 100 TP, TP you, meditate, then try to TP again for a finish.

Tachi: Enpi > Meditate > Tachi: Enpi > [green]Distortion[/green]
more or less a 500 total damage

you will know when he attempts this because he will berserk right before hand. when you see this, berserk, jump, high jump, and TP him. garenteed to drop him where he stands unless you A# short some TP B# he TPs you while your serk is up and his is on C# your jumps miss ; ;.

[grey]I hope this helps ya man. good luck out there (^^)b.[/grey]
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Thanks man great advice ^^
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what im here for, if ya need anymore, let me know. Im always willin to help out people in ballista.
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[help me out] nin/blm [imposable to gauage]
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sure, what cap we talkin here? subs you can/would like to use
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sub i need advice. caps wounld be 40 for now then 50 and 60 should not be too long from now
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ok i got 1 for you as well, lvl 60 drg/rdm or war against rdm/nin or rdm/blm and yes i agree there are too many cowards who rely on /nin sub nowadays. anyways i think i have a startegy but would like another strategy andmaybe i can take him down with np.
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Diaga his shadows, then pummel him. WAR incidentally have lower VIT than DRG. When low on health just use heal breath. WQhen you see him berserk+agressor you know a WS is coming so use yours jump+high jump+seuper jump. If you run around in circles he can't WS you but you'll still be autoattacking. This keeps him from killing you and keeps you hitting him. Rampage wont do much to you if you have protect II on,would do like 400ish unless he has Mighty Strikes...then you're pretty much dead.
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nah If the war is smart he just removes the lock on you and does a step back then you can rampage him cuz it has alittle bit range and when he jumos he gotta land too then you can rampage him as well

if war has capped markmanship he can win easyly but lame... just keep shooting him with sleep bolts and/or bloody's till your at 100 tp then sleep him use ur buffs and rampage his face in or sub thf and sa raging rush then he's dead too lol
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Thing about samurai in ballista is you have to assume they already have tp. Also at that level sams will be using yukikaze which is our first actual good ws which does heavy dmg (600-800ish) and blinds.
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i meant i can go as drg/rdm or drg/war my opponent will be a rdm/nin or rdm/blm any tips let me know lvl 60 cap thanx
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Man, I had a really bad Ballista, 60-cap last night.

our Team had 1 Healer, (Rdm/Nin) The other team had Whms 2+Rngs Rdms and 2 Drgs.

I dug up 10 Petras to start, ran after the first stray I saw, got jumped by everyone in their PT > died, lost my Petras

Run back in, Go head to head with their Galka Rng, he Sidewinders, Shadowbinds. I hi-potion and try to get close to him, Penta Thrust him (all my Dmg was absorbed >_<). Jump+ HighJump + Atk, I get him down to 70% HP (he was wearing an EarthStaff >_<), he Sidewinders me again... and to add insult to injury, one of the Gimpest lvl 60+ Drg on my server (I'm talking GIMP) Comes up and Pentas me @10% HP.

It's like getting your ass kicked by the school bully, Then having the smelly kid you've always picked on, come up and poop on your face as you lie there defenseless.

DC>>

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Petra up, find a lone Rdm/Nin

He Binds, Gravities, paralyzes, enthunders... ect. When my bind wears off, I run in and we play "who can be more of a pain in the ass" As soon as my Paralyze wears, I provoke Jump H-Jump and run around him in circles... got his HP down to like 70%, My HP was @ 65% after like 5 min of us going at it, I get 100%TP, I make contact wit ha swing, he starts casting Utsusemi... and fucking lag out >_<.

I tried to get back in, but kept getting a non-responsive server...so, I gave up.

Ah well, I had been doing so well in Ballista, it was starting to go to my head. I guess that was my lesson in humility. Just thought I'd share.

This was also my first experience as Drg/War in a 60-cap. I think I'll stick with Drg/Rdm for 60+
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aight, ill attempt to answer both of yours in a one shotter.

[red]Rambus, since your a taru, you should give a try out to /rdm, or /whm. The reason i suggest these is because your going to see a blm do a lil somethin like this...[/red]

BLM cast Utsumei
You cast Diaga
Wait for him/her to attempt to cast again
Jump
try to stick a silence
wait for another cast
high jump
attempt to silence again, if it didnt work, heres whats going to happen..
BLM might try to
A# Bind, sleep, ect. and run
B# recast utsumei
C# become very dumb and attempt to nuke futher

In this case, you should give these responses to the following actions..
A# Give em' the finga
B# diaga again
C# beat the living hell out of that poor bastard.

but, overall, your better off with /rdm or /whm for this senerio. Things you would need to watch out for would be ... bind, sleep, aspir, sleepga.

Good luck

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Necros, heres my suggestion for you ..

[blue]Dont sub RDM and rely on your wyvern to cure you bud, whats going to happen is the RDM will get smart and sleep your wyvern, your going to manage to spirit link and cure yourself once, hes going to silence you, end of your fun. I definately suggest using /war for this fight. Heres a nice tactict i use that works very very often[/blue].

*Whip out lance, run in.
*If you allowed him to buff first, gonna have a bit of trouble breaking through utsumei and stoneskin.
*beat away, when you notice the slightest bit of damage break in stoneskin, have your jumps ready.
*He will now attempt to 1.sleep you and rebuff. 2.continue enfeebling the **** out of you 3.get too ****y and **** up.
* Provoke him, provoking him stops him from casting certain spells, and limits use of Job abilities if it sticks.
* Make sure you have a poison potion, use it, then you will be immune to sleep, leaving bind and wieght his only options.
* as soon as you see the spells BIND, DRAIN, or any II spells, cures, jump him. use both jumps for this and only for.
* Keep him provoked
* now your TP should hit about 100% or so with 7 swings and 2 jumps, berserk, and penta thrust now that his shadows and stoneskin are gone. This should level him, 600+ damage unless he used phalynx, which will result in a great damage cut. never the less though, this should still kill him/her.

Good luck


[sea]lol Yokai, that is good stuff, but dont quit drg/war till you find out what its made of ._. DRG/war one of the better combos ive tried, and i love it. but yeah, ballista all boils down to choice, the way you fight, ect. [/sea]

[green]P.s. By the way.. Ive found my reason to continue fighting.. Ill see ya in ballista. Pickin up my lance to whoop some ass for a while to come. Go time.[/green]
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I've been challeged. MNK60/WAR30 when I'm DRG60/???30, what should I sub and how should I go about it?

I've also be challeged by a DRK, same level cap and sub as the MNK
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Yokai :
It's like getting your ass kicked by the school bully, Then having the smelly kid you've always picked on, come up and poop on your face as you lie there defenseless.


lmao
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