[Smurv]

check your PM anwell

[Stryder]

Anklebiter :
nice post smurv, the only other one guide that I like is the one on ffo.warcry posted by Tamariel there.

It's true that taru rdm's have to spend a tun of gil if they want to be effective-Goes back to farming for gil to afford being a taru rdm

One thing I've noticed though is that taru rdm's tend to be better than the rdm's of other classes out of the NA players because they know how to play the job better. A lot of people try to play rdm as a different job instead of playing it as a rdm and thats where the problem lies. People want to play as a war or a mage instead of playing as a rdm

WTF does race have to do with how someone plays if your good your good race dont have to do with shit taru's tend to play better bah!

[Smurv]

ok..

[Shenya]

how about subing rdm/rdm
heh its too long my brain fizzed out hafe way through.. and i'm good at NM hunting.. :O_o

[Bamce]

shoulda known this was from alla's it be so pro melee. not all damage is good damage the higher u go the less and less your 20ish damage is not neccessary, extra screwdrivers, jetstreams, gobbo bombs etc etc, (basically any nasty ws mobs can use) is not welcome

[Stryder]

Oh wow very good point Bamce

[Babinski]

:yes:here You rock smurv!

Oh smurv...I got lv23 fishing!..... i vow to catch up to you.....this weekend im using my gil from fishing to level Clothcraft to 50 though...

[Babinski]

Bamce :
shoulda known this was from alla's it be so pro melee. not all damage is good damage the higher u go the less and less your 20ish damage is not neccessary, extra screwdrivers, jetstreams, gobbo bombs etc etc, (basically any nasty ws mobs can use) is not welcome

With your en- spells and some god damn +1 weapons you would be doing more than 20ish damage.

[Stryder]

Babinski :

Bamce :
shoulda known this was from alla's it be so pro melee. not all damage is good damage the higher u go the less and less your 20ish damage is not neccessary, extra screwdrivers, jetstreams, gobbo bombs etc etc, (basically any nasty ws mobs can use) is not welcome

With your en- spells and some god damn +1 weapons you would be doing more than 20ish damage.

lol i dont think that was his point

[Smurv]

Bamce :
shoulda known this was from alla's it be so pro melee. not all damage is good damage the higher u go the less and less your 20ish damage is not neccessary, extra screwdrivers, jetstreams, gobbo bombs etc etc, (basically any nasty ws mobs can use) is not welcome

sure the mob will be getting a little more TP which is a good point... go post that response on the original post and see what he has to say i personally don't melee in groups.. so i can't really give an arguement.

[Babinski]

Stryder :

Babinski :

Bamce :
shoulda known this was from alla's it be so pro melee. not all damage is good damage the higher u go the less and less your 20ish damage is not neccessary, extra screwdrivers, jetstreams, gobbo bombs etc etc, (basically any nasty ws mobs can use) is not welcome

With your en- spells and some god damn +1 weapons you would be doing more than 20ish damage.

lol i dont think that was his point

His point (i think) was the TP the mob gains isnt worth the 20dmg...I was pointing out that maybe if they are doing more dmg it would be worth the TP the mob gains...oh well. Just a thought.


Smurv....why does your race say taru?

[Smurv]

because i'm a taru

[Babinski]

>< Nvm. The rdm picture that was posted was Nohmaan, nvm.

[Bamce]

personaly i don't see the point in wasting pixles by responding ot any thread on alla's, i've read to much about uber rdm/nin and nin/thf being uber to even bother wasting my time by posting there

[Sketchz]

Nice Smurv

[Tavia]

... Thank you Smurv (and airspirit). I was almost ready to give up redmage because I was feeling useless. I have new motivation now.

[Ghanki]

I agree with you for the most part but........I think that Taru's make the most effective Rdm's because of the MP they have. Rdm arent a main melee job but they do give a little extra damage to the mobs. Being a taru rdm/whm is one of the best combo's because of Dispel/Erase if you got the gil. The added damage from the "EN" spells is what Rdm's do the most damage with on an IT mob no matter what the weapon is. Taru's have a lot more MP to cover a Whm who may be lacking. I always keep my HP slightly above my MP so I can convert to full MP and use Divine Seal+ Cure IV and get close to full HP. Being level 62 Taru Rdm my HP/MP is 801/760 which makes it easy for convert. Plus....Taru's are just so cute, who doesnt love them ()

[Prefect]

Bamce :
shoulda known this was from alla's it be so pro melee. not all damage is good damage the higher u go the less and less your 20ish damage is not neccessary, extra screwdrivers, jetstreams, gobbo bombs etc etc, (basically any nasty ws mobs can use) is not welcome

If worried about TP gain, then use a Beestinger with the proper en-spell. You will do 0 physical damage with the Beestinger so the monster won't gain any TP from your attacks.

[Spellbinder]

Meleeing that adds to mobs TP...Race factoring in...all shouldn't be an issue. All races are good, melee can be good or it can be bad. The ONLY test when you are playing is if you can get to chain #5. If you can get to #5 while meleeing then great. If you can get to chain #5 being a Galka Rdm then its great. If not...then there's something you're doing wrong. Because chain#5 on VT-IT mobs IS possible and done many times. If you are hitting chain #3 and are out of mp or your other mages are out of mp because they need to use their mp to heal because of mobs special attack then rethink your play style. Just think...chain#5 and you all should be fine no matter the race or the style.

[Bamce]

if only enspell damage didn't suck maybe that would have some merit prefect