I just read a lot of complaints about gilsellers, but also a lot of bigotry and ignorance. If you complain about people who you think are ruining your game, then fine, but to insult Chinese as whole just makes you a racist. I'm not a gilseller but I do talk to them and I know what their side of the story is. Do you guys know how these people work? They have 6 accounts, organized into a pt, played simultaneously on 6 pcs by 2-3 people. Each person plays 2-3 characters at once, usually dividing up melees and mages. They are mostly college drop outs or high school kids who can't find a good job elsewhere. If you want a scapegoat don't target them, they are meer employees in a highly organized company. Furthermore do not bash China or Chinese just because it's Chinese kids who are employed by these companies. And be a little sympathetic, these are kids that know very little English but have made it this far. Imagine you knowing very little Japanese, like maybe 100 words max, and playing through to 75, rank 6 and sky access, all the while playing 2-3 characters at once using JP POL, it's not easy.
Also while it is easy to blame these kids who work for RMT companies, you should remember there are two sides to this economic equation, supply and demand.
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Concerning Gilsellers
#2
Posted 25 May 2005 - 06:44 AM
Im rather sympathetic for these people who cant find a job and have to resort to this as a job. For these kids i feel selfish saying they should have to stop as its their sorce of income and maybe is what provides food for them to live off of ...just because i feel it messes up my gameplay atmosphere.
Out of the two sides i beleive there is no lesser evil.
Buying gil is wrong
Selling gil is wrong
As for the kids that have to use this as a way to provide for themselves... i wish they had it better off and didnt have to play a game to live.
Out of the two sides i beleive there is no lesser evil.
Buying gil is wrong
Selling gil is wrong
As for the kids that have to use this as a way to provide for themselves... i wish they had it better off and didnt have to play a game to live.
#3
Posted 25 May 2005 - 06:50 AM
man these guys are pathetic. If you spend 24/7 looking for a job you will get
an awsome job. Man i know people who came from third world countries
with no education and now they make over 100G's every year. And they
did not spend 24/7 on a game to make that much but simply they went out
looked for jobs gotr experience and did what they have to do.
So those gil sellers are pathetic.
an awsome job. Man i know people who came from third world countries
with no education and now they make over 100G's every year. And they
did not spend 24/7 on a game to make that much but simply they went out
looked for jobs gotr experience and did what they have to do.
So those gil sellers are pathetic.
#4
Posted 25 May 2005 - 06:52 AM
Don't stick up for them, taking a -GAME- where people are suppose to have fun, and ruining the economy, cheating to claim NMs and items, monopolizing items/NMs/monsters that are farmable and make money for people who use GAME money on GAME related items, not to feed their faces...
#5
Posted 25 May 2005 - 06:54 AM
Bassus how do you know they have enough money to move to an area where there is an opertunity to make a good living? I dont think you fully understand how some of third world countries work. Its like telling a bum to get a job... Some people just dont have it as good as we all do.
#6
Posted 25 May 2005 - 06:55 AM
Well as you can see i am from Iraq i know perfectly well how these things work.
If you can pay this much monthly for a game and a pc you can get a damn job.
If you can pay this much monthly for a game and a pc you can get a damn job.
#7
Posted 25 May 2005 - 07:07 AM
China is the world's factory, if you want a lowskill, low pay job then it's very easy to get one here. However the employment outlook for undegrads and high school graduates is very bleak in China, unemployment for this group is above 20% or more, depends on if you believe in the government's official numbers or not. These kids don't pay the monthly fees, their employers do. They are given passwords to log on, and that's it.
If you want to blame anyone, blame SE for fuckups like the millicorn quest in Selbina, padded caps, etc that gave out way too much gil for way too little work. All this inflation, which fuels gil buying which in turn fuels gil selling is due to the unnatural increase in the monetary supply. Only SE can control the new gil that is being produced, and they haven't been controlling the increase until recently when they realized that it was a problem. The rise in AH fees is their attempt to fix the problem but it was too late and too little.
If you want to blame anyone, blame SE for fuckups like the millicorn quest in Selbina, padded caps, etc that gave out way too much gil for way too little work. All this inflation, which fuels gil buying which in turn fuels gil selling is due to the unnatural increase in the monetary supply. Only SE can control the new gil that is being produced, and they haven't been controlling the increase until recently when they realized that it was a problem. The rise in AH fees is their attempt to fix the problem but it was too late and too little.
#8
Posted 25 May 2005 - 07:11 AM
~Saige~ :
Buying gil is wrong
Selling gil is wrong
Buying gil is wrong
Selling gil is wrong
Saige I blisted you due to the fact you talk a lot, you should practice what you preach instead of being a hypocrite.. ~_~ I don't want to get into details, but please just STFU seriuosly.. You hate people buying gil? Then why do you have members such as Sarooh, and Yazooy, and Salmooh in your own ls? You don't want to believe me they stole my ****, and yet you all agreed they RMT etc etc.. and yet you don't support in kicking them of LS.. It's evident enough they either stole my ****, and or buy GIL. You asked you wanted to see my proof of my afidavit that I have filled out with my legal office. Why do I have too? If people don't want to believe me I can careless, even if I show proof theres gonna be another flamer or sore looser that's gonna say its fake etc.. so theres no need to prove anything. Just stop being a hypocrite already. Ever since I recruited you in HP your EGO has grown larger than Iulus Brd AF hat. Dam HP was good but now that I'm out of it I can see why other LS think your all stuck up, certain people like you are just annoying. Although there are several good members in HP. But few ruins it, e.i. like you.
Anyways Gil sellers are at sky now they try to steal Ullikummi from us but died since they didn't know how to kill it.
Edit: They were getting rdy to kill Faust, but Wenis had open the yellow gate and closed them in the bluegate protal XD
#9
Posted 25 May 2005 - 07:13 AM
All i have to say is save enough money to buy a suit and get a job.
it's not very hard to do.
it's not very hard to do.
#10
Posted 25 May 2005 - 07:15 AM
is this thread called Concerning Gilsellers or Concerning Imola's Items????
I think its the Chinese Gilfarmers who are overpopulating Remora
Dont turn this into another HP flame please....
but still a nice screenshot lol
I think its the Chinese Gilfarmers who are overpopulating Remora
Dont turn this into another HP flame please....
but still a nice screenshot lol
#11
Posted 25 May 2005 - 07:20 AM
nothing about HP calzone, just you really need to tell Saige to get off the forumns and take a breath, she's just not annoying other HNM ls anymore, its just her post have really just been annoying now... like Stubborn... send her a tell for me STFU.. Btw calzone we doing Gods again on Thursday I believe you can come to Seiryu if BP drops its yours <3
#12
Posted 25 May 2005 - 07:21 AM
saige likes drama, oh well
gimme a time for seiryu i think i can make it lol
gimme a time for seiryu i think i can make it lol
#14
Posted 25 May 2005 - 10:30 AM
Takedashingen :
They have 6 accounts, organized into a pt, played simultaneously on 6 pcs
They have 6 accounts, organized into a pt, played simultaneously on 6 pcs
They must be so poor
#15
Posted 25 May 2005 - 11:33 AM
Reason Salmooh/Sarooh/Yazooy are in LS as them buying/selling gil isn't really a concern. Yes some people are against it in LS, and you should see the long ass conversations about it in LS chat. The reason they are in LS is they are very skilled players, and fun to talk with. Yes Yazooy can get on my nerves at times but she is alot better now then she was 6months ago ^^;
As for them stealing your items or whatever happened, i feel sorry for you, but also looks like you did an awesome job at recovery ^^. Just don't give out your pwd/id and all should be well.
As for them stealing your items or whatever happened, i feel sorry for you, but also looks like you did an awesome job at recovery ^^. Just don't give out your pwd/id and all should be well.
#16
Posted 25 May 2005 - 04:07 PM
Gil sellers need to die and burn in hell, then burn in the layer below.
I don't give a crap about their real life situation, if they want to make money, they need to find other ways of doing so. Ruining a game shouldn't be an option. It's not so much the fact that they sell gil that's a problem. It's the fact that they use several characters, claim everything they can, steal from legit players, mpk legit players, and do every other thing possible to make the money theirs which they aren't even gonig to use anyway. There were 18 gil sellers at Serket again today. Now if they all used 1 character instead of 3, and didn't MPK or Steal, people would not get pissed off at them. I can handle camping against a normal group of 6 people. In fact, if they did things like this, people wouldn't even know they were gil sellers. They do need to fix their names though...
I don't give a crap about their real life situation, if they want to make money, they need to find other ways of doing so. Ruining a game shouldn't be an option. It's not so much the fact that they sell gil that's a problem. It's the fact that they use several characters, claim everything they can, steal from legit players, mpk legit players, and do every other thing possible to make the money theirs which they aren't even gonig to use anyway. There were 18 gil sellers at Serket again today. Now if they all used 1 character instead of 3, and didn't MPK or Steal, people would not get pissed off at them. I can handle camping against a normal group of 6 people. In fact, if they did things like this, people wouldn't even know they were gil sellers. They do need to fix their names though...
#17
Posted 22 December 2008 - 08:23 PM
Cant stand Gil Sellers...
but I am a sympathizer so I buy gil on the DL just to suport them...
I buy it and then turn around and sell it.. just to support them and there largest and fastest econmoy in the world
everyones gotta eat ya know
The Real Gil Sellers are pictuyred below. ParentalSupervision is advised
but I am a sympathizer so I buy gil on the DL just to suport them...
I buy it and then turn around and sell it.. just to support them and there largest and fastest econmoy in the world
everyones gotta eat ya know
The Real Gil Sellers are pictuyred below. ParentalSupervision is advised
#19
Posted 23 December 2008 - 01:31 PM
can't.... stop..... staring.... at.... sig........................................
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