Keep up the good work, Mertron. As frustrating as this has been, your research is going to help a lot of other people. It sure beats those selfish little pricks that keep "secrets" to themselves.
Race-Specific Sachets (A Guide for Obtaining Them)
#62
Posted 19 September 2005 - 02:14 AM
Been in Ordelle's since Elvaan Male RSE stared and haven't seen anything except for 3 ??? that all say "Nothing Happens." I don't know if those 3 are connected to the NM.
edit: messed position on one of the ones I saw.
edit: messed position on one of the ones I saw.
#63
Posted 19 September 2005 - 02:34 AM
same thing for me when i went during female rse week in ordelles, "nothing happens" over and over at every ??? except the quest/af ones.
i might try again when elv female rse week is up again
i might try again when elv female rse week is up again
#64
Posted 19 September 2005 - 02:40 AM
There are a couple more people in Ordelle's as well so it might be possible that they spawn and kill it while I'm elsewhere.
#65
Posted 19 September 2005 - 03:27 AM
The ??? in ordelles caves that say "nothing happens" are for DRK AF2 btw. Theres one right when you fall down the east hole, one in the hallway on the way to Malbolger, and one in the room where Malbolger pops. So those aren't the right ???'s. I get the same message when I click on them even though I've done the quest.
But yeah, no luck on finding a ??? that works. I'm going to test a new theory, which I just made up because I'm bored: The ??? starts to spawn after a chest is opened, and doesnt give a pattern. Perhaps doing this explains how sometimes the ??? pops near a chest?
Well, it's worth a shot. After all the time I've put into this, I'm about ready to give up and let someone else figure out how to do this, then I'll come back.
But yeah, maybe its possible other people are killing them and I suck :/
Edit: Nope, didnt work. I'm done for today :/ good luck everyone. Something has to be done to make the ???'s start popping im guessing :/
But yeah, no luck on finding a ??? that works. I'm going to test a new theory, which I just made up because I'm bored: The ??? starts to spawn after a chest is opened, and doesnt give a pattern. Perhaps doing this explains how sometimes the ??? pops near a chest?
Well, it's worth a shot. After all the time I've put into this, I'm about ready to give up and let someone else figure out how to do this, then I'll come back.
But yeah, maybe its possible other people are killing them and I suck :/
Edit: Nope, didnt work. I'm done for today :/ good luck everyone. Something has to be done to make the ???'s start popping im guessing :/
#66
Posted 19 September 2005 - 01:27 PM
I'm done for today :/ good luck everyone. Something has to be done to make the ???'s start popping im guessing :/
I totally agree, there has to be a trigger condition that lets the ???s pop. Thinking about it over coffee I came up with this....
Each RSE zone has mobs that are of the same family as the Aroma mobs. Crawlers, Flies, and Leeches are rather abundant in each zone. Perhaps we have to kill enough of each of the appropriate similar mob to get the ??? for the Aroma mob to spawn.
Anyone want to go to their appropriate RSE zone & farm the Crawlers/Flies/Leeches for a bit and see what happens?
#67
Posted 19 September 2005 - 02:28 PM
hmm, last time it was Elvaan M in Gusgen Mines; I was killing quite a few flies in the room with MNK AF1, teamed-up with an Elvaan WHM who needed keys. Maybe I didn't kill enough of them, but I still think that it may spawn in any of the 3 zones.
SE is crazy, so I don't doubt that theory for one second.
I also ran around Gusgen for a few hours, never found a ??? not already used-up for a quest.
SE is crazy, so I don't doubt that theory for one second.
I also ran around Gusgen for a few hours, never found a ??? not already used-up for a quest.
#68
Posted 19 September 2005 - 06:37 PM
I just wanted to confirm the existence of the Aroma Crawler. I killed it twice, but no drop. The ??? spawns I saw were the first 2 listed in the OP, and don't remember the time between the two spawns, but felt like around an hour. BTW, I'm hume male, and I went there on Hume Male's Week/Location since I also hunted a RSE chest while I was there. There were a couple other people in the maze, and I can't say if they were hunting the same thing I was, or were there for RSE chests, Argus, etc. I did spend a while killing mobs for a key since I wanted to get another RSE piece while I was there, so a ??? could have spawned and been claimed by someone else during that time.
#69
Posted 19 September 2005 - 07:16 PM
i'm there now and its taru male RSE... i dont see any ??? in shakrami at all
#70
Posted 20 September 2005 - 07:21 AM
0/3 on Aroma Crawler
spent 2 hours in Gusgen on my RSE and never seen the ???
;_;
spent 2 hours in Gusgen on my RSE and never seen the ???
;_;
#71
Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:53 AM
ran around for about 6 hours in maze during taru M rse then for around 4 in ordelle's cave for taru F rse (brought a taru F friend) and we found 0 ???s.
this is has led me to believe that the ??? appearing for the NMs might be a lottery for each race in and of itself. I will keep going back during taru M rse and see what i can find out..
this is has led me to believe that the ??? appearing for the NMs might be a lottery for each race in and of itself. I will keep going back during taru M rse and see what i can find out..
#72
Posted 20 September 2005 - 11:57 AM
does anyone find it odd that these RSE satchets help things that your race is allready profficient in ??
RSE usually helps balance you out, not widen the gap between other races.
RSE usually helps balance you out, not widen the gap between other races.
#73
Posted 20 September 2005 - 12:46 PM
Yes, I thought that strange as well. Still, some nice stats (depending on what job you're playing) from the Throwing slot.
#74
Posted 20 September 2005 - 05:59 PM
Nix80 :
0/3 on Aroma Crawler
spent 2 hours in Gusgen on my RSE and never seen the ???
;_;

0/3 on Aroma Crawler
spent 2 hours in Gusgen on my RSE and never seen the ???
;_;

Ok, so you've popped it thrice but it wasn't during your RSE week? Do you know when it was? Even an earth time will do to backtrack to the Vana'diel time and, probably most importantly, whose RSE week it was.
#75
Posted 21 September 2005 - 06:12 AM
No i popped him 3 times on my RSE week at the maze (no drop), found the ??? quite easy (30min repop)
Then i tried on my next RSE at Gusgen but never found the ??? in 2 hours of running around ><
Then i tried on my next RSE at Gusgen but never found the ??? in 2 hours of running around ><
#76
Posted 21 September 2005 - 07:25 PM
Amunaptra: Where were you in your screenshot?
Edit: Nevermind, I think that's right near the Attowha zone.
Edit2: Scoured the entire Maze during my RSE week, no luck at all.
Couldn't even find the correct ??? a single damn time. No one else was after it, either.
Edit: Nevermind, I think that's right near the Attowha zone.
Edit2: Scoured the entire Maze during my RSE week, no luck at all.
Couldn't even find the correct ??? a single damn time. No one else was after it, either.
#77
Posted 22 September 2005 - 12:12 PM
Ok i just registered to put down this theory :-), but i have been thinking a little about it since it began. maybe it goes one race a cycle.
EX:
Taru M:???
Taru F:x
Mithra:x
Galka:x
Hume M:x
Hume F:x
Elv M:x
Elv F:x
_______
Taru M:x
Taru F:???
Mithra:x
Galka:x
Hume M:x
Hume F:x
Elv M:x
Elv F:x
_______
Taru M:x
Taru F:x
Mithra:???
Galka:x
Hume M:x
Hume F:x
Elv M:x
Elv F:x
.... etc. dunno but best i can think of sooo far i have checked my rse position the past 3 times no pop that i could find. sooo let me know what you think
EX:
Taru M:???
Taru F:x
Mithra:x
Galka:x
Hume M:x
Hume F:x
Elv M:x
Elv F:x
_______
Taru M:x
Taru F:???
Mithra:x
Galka:x
Hume M:x
Hume F:x
Elv M:x
Elv F:x
_______
Taru M:x
Taru F:x
Mithra:???
Galka:x
Hume M:x
Hume F:x
Elv M:x
Elv F:x
.... etc. dunno but best i can think of sooo far i have checked my rse position the past 3 times no pop that i could find. sooo let me know what you think
#78
Posted 22 September 2005 - 01:57 PM
That's a very interesting theory Lym. It would definately fit the "annoying as hell spawn timer" pattern SE seems to be following lately for new NMs. Easy enough to check too, we just need regular reports for a day or two from people as the RSE week cycles through all the races.
Taru F now, Mithra in 6hr30m, Gakla just after midnight, etc. I'll do my part tonight after work to try and see if this is the 'trick'.
Taru F now, Mithra in 6hr30m, Gakla just after midnight, etc. I'll do my part tonight after work to try and see if this is the 'trick'.
#79
Posted 22 September 2005 - 02:21 PM
eHHHRRRrrr confused ; ; how do i know the mithra rse time?
and how do i get it again ?_?
and how do i get it again ?_?
#80
Posted 22 September 2005 - 02:33 PM
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