[Goku]

So... because we don't want to hijack a new thread on a new job which even does not exist yet, and we don't even know if this is the right job, lets say:

/war or /thf to sub Blue mage? Do you think Fire Breath will stack with SATA?

[Lokky]

the critical damage on WS with /war isn't as good as the one given by SATA in my experience....
most dmg i have done with a WS as /war is 700, where with /thf i can land 800+ constantly depending on TP
anyway no one goes /war on gods, because there all the damage that counts comes from WS

while in exp the DoT is more important then the big shiny WS damage

and SATA being on a one minute timer constantly slows me down... having TP ready but SATA not is boring <.<

[kurousagi]

Um, if fafnir turns around because someone got hate using a WS... then you guys are doing something wrong, very very wrong. that means people aren't standing on the legs

[Yoona]

Aphie :
you dont know that... you just see them breath fire.. that might be a new spell or a skill or something.. you have no idea.. it doesnt mean its an enemy move

Personally I think that that is just new armor >.> watch you all be getting your hopes up and.... BAM.. its some weak ass lvl 50-60 nin armor to 'look cool' in

Actually SE already said that at least 1 new job is in the expansion. This def isnt some new type of NIN armor. Its a new job. And as to new moves or skills? Why would it look EXACTLY like moves that monsters use.... I know SE likes to reuse things but still its def a blue mage.

[Mythx]

I like the idea of a Viking >.> It would probably just be a DMG dealer that in the end fuck DRK over

[Rakshas]

I vote only girl bums :yes

[Shoojio]

Juggalo :
Here's what we definitively know:
- Name of expansion
- A video was leaked that shows several recognizable cutscenes from FFXI, along with new areas.
- A character is shown running along in unfamiliar gear.

Here's what we do not know:
- We assume it's a new job, but we do not know this.
- We assume this new job is Blue Mage based off the color of the gear, but we do not know this.
- We do not know what abilities this rumored new job will have
- We do not know what skills or abilities this rumored new job will be able to learn.
- We do not know what particular stat(s) this rumored new job will favor.
- We do not even know what exactly this rumored new job will do or how it will play.
- Therefore, we also do not know what subjobs are yet viable for this new rumored job.
- We do not even know whether a Blue Mage would be abbreviated as BUM or BLU by SE (both have been previously used in other FF games).

I say the above because I've already seen threads debating what subjobs are appropriate for Blue Mage, whether they favor HP or MP, debating what skills they will learn and BUM vs BLU, and so on.

Yes, the video is more than likely real. But no gaming website has even posted in regards to the video being shown, reported what they saw, or so much as mentioned FFXI at the TGS. So anything discussed based off that video is nothing more than brainstorming ideas of somethign you are all assuming might happen.

Granted, it very well may be that SE plans to introduce Blue Mage as a playable class; I am not denying this. Perhaps the gaming outlets are just a few days slow to report this (despite IGN's live updates). But as we cannot confirm this concretely, we certainly have zero validity to any discussion involving Blue Mage's in-game makeup.

I'm not saying all discussion regarding Blue Mage should cease to exist, but I do think heated debates expressing opinion, all based off a rumor from a video nobody reputable can even confirm, should not be presented and argued as fact.

And given all the above, and the video, discussions involving Geomancer being another job added (despite never being shown anywhere) are about as valid as suggesting Pirate, Necromancer, Time Mage, or Angry Bus Driver as potential jobs.

It is all interesting, no doubt, but it's nothing more than speculation running rampant on this board.

Oh ya cause you just see every bard looking thing blow fire and shoot out spider webs...

[Ignado]

Here's what we do not know:
- We assume it's a new job, but we do not know this.
- We assume this new job is Blue Mage based off the color of the gear, but we do not know this.
- We do not know what abilities this rumored new job will have
- We do not know what skills or abilities this rumored new job will be able to learn.
- We do not know what particular stat(s) this rumored new job will favor.
- We do not even know what exactly this rumored new job will do or how it will play.
- Therefore, we also do not know what subjobs are yet viable for this new rumored job.
- We do not even know whether a Blue Mage would be abbreviated as BUM or BLU by SE (both have been previously used in other FF games).

http://www.ffcompendium.com/h/jobs/bluemage.shtml

-If these vids are real it will be a new job no arguing that. There not gonna suddenly change a job all around and give them mob abilitys.
-We assume its Blue mage because Blue Mages learn Mobs abilitys and then can use them again. And the pics showed the 2 guys in blue armor doing a raptor breath attack and a spiders spider web attack to the exact graphics.
-SE will most likley keep them close to the same as the last games. We dont know the exacts but they can use mob abilitys. That we know.
- Of course we dont know the exact stats but we can recall the old games and make good guesses through that.
-Again of course but we can make predictions
-Ditto
-The abreviation dosent matter but ya i see ur point

[Chronic]

ppl are just ignorant.. so they need to make long posts to rain on our parades.

[Ignado]

lol ya..and Blue Mage is comin out.... post on SE related websites just said Blue Mage WILL me a new job in the upcoming expansion so any disbalivers can now stfu.

[Boshi]

I worked on this a bit today during my lunch break; hopefully it reads better than the auto-translated version. This is the entire article, so please skim through if the rest does not interest you:

Square Enix officially announces “Final Fantasy XI: The Treasures of Aht Urhgan.” A new job, the “blue mage,” and new areas…directed by Mr. Ogawa.

In addition to unveiling the Xbox 360 version of “Final Fantasy XI” over in the MicroSoft Booth, Square-Enix corporation also officially unveiled the third expansion to “Final Fantasy,” following, “The Chains of Promathia,” entitled, “The Treasures of Aht Urhgan.” What a wonderful surprise it was to all of us gathered in the hall who had merely hoped to see the newest developments surrounding the Xbox 360, and instead were treated to the showing of the expansion disk as well. Although there was not a lot of information revealed, allow us to introduce what we have uncovered to the best of our knowledge.

First, please be aware that the information revealed was limited to a promotional video and a demonstration by the staff of the FFXI team. In fact, the showing of the video had not been announced previously and came as quite a shock to many, including ourselves.

Although the video itself was barely a minute long, the contents were extremely rich. Accompanied by a number of cryptic messages, the video begins as a digest of the most famous scenes from the “Rise of the Zilart,” and the “Chains of Promathia,” before launching into a lightning quick introduction to the four new areas.

These new areas include a ghost ship, an eerie swamp land reminiscent of the Boyahda tree, a beautiful verdant grasslands and a brand new sea route that is drenched in adventure. During the scene featuring the new sea route, one can see on the cliffs beyond, a view to whet the appetite; the tall walls of a grand castle and a cityscape with large domes tinged with Middle Eastern flair. It is unknown “where” the new areas will be in relation to the present Vana’diel…however to house a vision so grand, surely the only remaining area would be the very other side of the World Map.

At the end of the movie appear the FFXI community’s much anticipated new job, “Blue Mage,” wearing Middle Eastern robes. The Tarutaru uses what resembles a spider’s special attack, “Spider Web,” while the Hume raises his hands high over his head whilst breathing the Manticore’s “Heat Breath.”

In regards to the Blue Mage job, while it is certainly not a mainstream job, it is a very beloved one to those familiar with the FFXI genre—if asked to think of 10 jobs that define FF, it’s impact is enough to make such a list time and time again.

The Blue Mage’s special ability is, “Blue Magic.” By using a skill called, “Learning,” a Blue Mage may learn the attacks of enemies, using such in exchange for MP. There are many useful skills that can be learned, and the job itself will no doubt become a staple. Additionally, did you know that the existing FFXI commands, “Check,” and the BST’s “Examine,” were actually originally Blue Mage abilities?

However, such line of thought is based on previous examples, and we do not know for sure if the Blue Mage will continue to have such abilities in FFXI. What we hope to say however, is that this job will be come a middle line type (tanks are front line, most mages are back line) that will require MP; although until we are sure of the effects of “Learning,” who knows what will happen.

But at any rate, we all know that one of FFXI’s strengths is in the variety of enemies, the various unique attacks they use and the scale of the attacks they use. It should be safe to say that by harnessing these new abilities for ourselves, users can create a whole new way of playing. No doubt, the Blue Mages abilities will have a great impact on the level restrictions and support job system of FFXI. As for what attacks can be unlocked, at what level, and for how much MP? That will become a showcase of the developers’ skills.

Now, at the MicroSoft FFXI Corner, we were able to ask a few questions to the Publicity Producer, Mr. Wada. Although he would not review any more than was already revealed by the movie, we do know that the Director is now “Chains of Promathia,” Map Planner Kouichi Ogawa.

Contents are oft considered new jobs, new areas and new storylines and events that drive the whole. When asked the number of new jobs, he responded, “I am not able to answer that.” When asked if there were multiple jobs, a more positive, “I wonder…” We were also quite interested in learning how the story would continue to unfold. In the original and “Rise of the Zilart,” a direct approach was used by leveling from 1 to 75, whilst in “Chains of Promathia,” a more dramatic, level restricted area was introduced to create a more severe game balance.

With the changing of the guard to new director, Ogawa, while the number or specifics of quests and missions are yet unknown, the approach to unfolding these events will be wholly unique to “Treasures.” And with that, we conclude the report of what is know. We will be informing you of any new developments as they are unveiled.

[Scruffy]

Damn, got to "i worked on this" and ADD kicked in. :con

[Chronic]

We'll all learn prolly this week what they might be planning...

As they said on the POL site, they will give us a sneak peek soon... Most of the times, when they announce an update or sumthing they post it in a 2-4 day interval.. so i suspect they'll throw a news update tomorrow or tuesday.


And the worse case sceniaro could be they just post that tokoyo video again lol

[mArTyR_]

OMG CHANGE YOUR DAMN SIG! EYUCK!

[Zorro]

WTF if wrong with you?

[Wragaa]

Goku :
So... because we don't want to hijack a new thread on a new job which even does not exist yet, and we don't even know if this is the right job, lets say:

/war or /thf to sub Blue mage? Do you think Fire Breath will stack with SATA?

Guess I'll take this one:

SATA dont stack with things of an elemental proberty... so no...

[blackassasin]

what about bomb toss or like throat slash or ____________

[mArTyR_]

He took it off now, but if you did see it... gross >_>

But yea, this is most likely a blue mage, or another job that can use its abilities...


...Unless they have certain armor or items that give you that ability....

meh, could happen :

[AbsoluteZERO]

well it states that you use these abilities with MP therefore you can assume they will be classified as spells there fore you can assume you cant SATA any of them. just like you cant SATA -> Tornado or something.

[Hiroki]

Aphie :

Angelas :

I doubt they would showcase..

Listen to that... an idealist....

SquareEnix hates its players.. learn this please.

They are just screwing with you and toying with your imagination

Odds are.. some guy at SE HQ is thinking "HAHA! someone out there STILL thinks we actually will give them something great! HA!"

Wow, people like you that STILL bitch about how evil SE is need to grow up. If you hate them so much why do you pay them $13+ a month? Be thankful the game still exists, that they still keep up the server maintenance, and that they took the fucking time to program an entire new expansion for you and everyone else. They aren't out to get you and make your life miserable.