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lol the shells going strong and we are giddy to have more ppl. shells around 18 atm, and still growing good too. just few days left!

just the melee perspective of which is better should be ample. Thats my main worry anyhow since WS set seems pretty strait forward. Kinda like asuran but I will assume str will be a bigger factor and dex haha.

zahl just let you know, with yhels setup above and bream sushi with the haste set you get 429 acc, which will cap on ALL mmj but nins (440s) and thfs (490+). Add to fact his setup does not include shens (people like me have them, hades+1 should at least be staple for comparison or oberons with 10 hth) means you will be over cap, or very close even for nins. And if you really want to get picky breram+1 is going tp put you at 435 acc and with shens 441. Plus rajas could be traded for another 7 acc ring raing you to 445 is had to be, but also taking you from a 16 hit to 17 hit.

So what I am getting at is bream+1 will cap you at MMj on all but thf mmj which is what happens with EVERY job pretty much anyhow.

The issue I have with all this comparisons is that I think /war will still trump /drg just because zerk is so amazing for h2h, and the DA is pretty big factor of a 6 hit ws. Then add that now we will probably be /nin everywhere..... I think its more fair to do comparison w/o /drg since it really isnt going to be acceptable (if mnk isnt allowed anything but /nin especially at mmj a pup now wont either since our SP should pull hate much easier with our huge dot increase)

I look forward to the math though!

worm > 14.5-yalms deloy auto rng> provoke with auto>sit back and hit it till it dies > 37 super fast.

beyond that take ep-dc in FoV until 40 when you can get whm head, at which point soloing just came a lot easier. Then target ep-T mobs depending on what you are capable of killing for best xp/hr.

bst =/= pup is the slightest. if your auto starts attacking at those lvs and curing he is going to get hit and you wont be able to ADD him often. Its basically keep a light manuever up at all times to force a cure over other stuff. Then toss up w/o manuever you think you need at the time, wind for silence, earth for slow, dark for blund, etc.... I normally keep ice/dark/light up all times since the auto will para/blind and spam cures faster with the ice manuever up.

one thing to mention that you are not taking into consideration.

By using full usu your auto also loses out on 3% haste, not big deal but its something. Also 4% haste is a very big deal for dmg, especially with marchx2 and haste on you which now will be a lot more common as we pups take a real DD spot in a few days (as playerbase will see).

crab sushi btw is 13% acc not 11%. Which gives you 415 acc.... which means your 8 over cap, or in other words faith torque+ulthalms+usu legs which drops out 13~ acc depending your dex. But also your using wags which while great you should really have shens>hades+1=oberons+10hth when we talk about these top pup builds which will basically set you right at the 407 cap.

so it really comes down to this (tired so quick look at it)

mix set: 4%haste, 5% hit rate, and auto has 3% haste (but thats marginal)

usu- 11str (5 more from mithkabo too if thats what you use at birds), and normally 65 attack from kabob

so will 4% haste and 5% hit rate out do 16 str and 65 attack? I think its going to be dang close. But with the normal marchx2+haste+drk+cor rolls on It also helps the mix set more since the haste means more, and the attack less.

at MMJ I guess you could argue though that full usu would let you use pizza which would cap you on all but nins and thfs so your technically 55 attack bonus there from food. Id wager to say mix is best at birds, and both are probably dang equal at mmj. It really comes down to buffs. Also /drg helps the usu set more too (needs the acc more) and we still dont know if it will truly beat out /war yet. Let alone we may have to sub nin now like mnks do since we are pretty dang close to them dmg wise now. This only helps the mix set since using crab sushi you cap so easily.

I am no expert on the math though so will need a person who can break it down to exact % to come in. Either way with how close they seem to me now id go for w/e one is easier to get. And will probably do usu set myself since I am going for it anyhow and after a dick not hping at last goli body drop and me losing it i just refuse to subject myself to damn nyzule again.

edit: hmm i didnt think of it earlier but with ancient torque + shens in full usu you will cap acc at birds..... so the gap lessens really to 4% haste to basically 70 attack lol...... im kinda leaning on usu now too, but mix being a very good choice (probably close to mix mnk and usu mnk difference). Good thing im working on full usu lol! and get to play with shens at birds finally in a few days will be hella fun (im subbing war getting double minuet + drk roll and going to aim for massive SP! just for kicks)